Is it hard coded that Germans don't invade UK

[GaribaldisFleet]

As u know even the smallest allies members coming from the other side of earth can try to naval invade the Axis nations.

On the other hand, Germans. An enemy so close that can bomb your capital, and you do shit. just garriaon all your coasts while waiting for barbarossa focus.

i do not think it is navy. As italy i destroyed half of the royal navy and got naval and air superiority on English channel by 1940. then waited for germans to push. but no. even no battle plan. your harshest rival is waiting for you to serve all her lands to you, but you prefer being constantly bombed by her forces.

i am really satisfied about the actual land war capability of Axis AI. but when it comes to naval warfare, it needs to be improved i guess.

 

[Temudhun Khan]

I once saw Germany invade the UK as I was playing fascist France. So I can guarantee Germany is at least able to do it.

 

[DonGaron]

I've seen it happen, but it's rare. For some reason the German pattern when I play is DOW Poland, then immediately Luxembourg, Holland, Belgium. All at almost the same time. After beating France Germany just kinda ignores the U.K.

 

[Sanny]

It is the Navy. Even if half was destroyed that's still more ships than what the German AI should have.

 

[KalZakath]

Some of it depends on who is with the Germans. Unless they commit to it right away, Germany will not have the fleet available to them to challenge the Royal Navy to get the control of the sea zones necessary to do the invasion, except on a fluke.

However, the Italian fleet can potentially destroy the RN due to the RN's predilection to send small fleets to the Med where they can be chewed up by air and the Italian Fleet. When that happens, I've noticed, there will be an invasion of England by someone. Otherwise, the mechanics pretty much shut it down until Germany is doing really well (which winds up being much later if you get that far).

 

[LordOfWar16]

Some of it depends on who is with the Germans. Unless they commit to it right away, Germany will not have the fleet available to them to challenge the Royal Navy to get the control of the sea zones necessary to do the invasion, except on a fluke

Actually, the Kriegsmarine right from the start is more than enough to invade the UK if its led by the AI. If you did the right thing and basicly abandoned naval production in favor of airforce production, all you have to do is order alot of stuka and torpedo bomber into the channel on naval strike missions and wait a few weeks/months. The allies will have managed to get their entire navies sunk rather quickly. All you then have to do is put the Kriegsmarine into the channel and you have naval supremacy and you can just ferry 5-10 divisions over since the UK's AI basicly always has its entire army oversea. If not you can simply dump additional stukas over england and obliterate any opposition. If done right you can even trap the majority of the british navy in the mediteranian and maybe even the baltic sea where they are also easy targets for Dive/Torpedo Bombers.

AI Germany really should put a much heavier focus on air combat with the UK as it historically did (Battle for Britian). If you controll the air all navies in the world wont protect you. The channel is narrow enough that the Luftwaffe wouldnt have any problems keeping the Royal Navy out once the Royal Airforce is gone.

 

[GaribaldisFleet]

In my current game AI Turkey made successfully invasions to England and China by 1942. SU surrendered, but Germans still does nothing about UK.

edit: finally i could see German naval invasion plans after UK had 8 ships left.

 

[Pyro157]

I've seen it happen, but it's very rare and usually doesn't succeed.

 

[Lord Dakier]

Germany need naval superiority against the largest navy in the world. The original plan was to win the air fight and then they could effectively dominate the channel by air rather than sea.

In the game there isn't a large enough focus on air combat in the channel and southern England. Germany should be bombarding southern England and forcing the UK to cover there rather than just the channel. The problem here is however supplying enough rubber to keep up production, another nightmare for the Axis to deal with.

 

[Riekopo]

Germany need naval superiority against the largest navy in the world.

I don't think the AI needs naval superiority to invade. Only the player does.

 

[Kadanz]

I've seen AI italy do a naval invasion of the UK once I as germany established naval superiority around the UK isles. Given that the AI suicides its navy as soon as war starts it never gets a chance ever again to do so.

 

[Rashie]

No. I've seen AI Germany once pull off Sealion successfully in 1940 once in previous patch, think it was 1.3

For the most part otherwise unless some side screws up massively, the AI isn't capable of dealing with taking the british isles.

 

[Duke_Dave]

It happens either early in the game, when Spain joins very fast and Gibraltar and Suez fall. Or Once they have defeated the SU but US hasn't joined yet or not in any high numbers.
But they do invade, often the Italians first and often quite successfully as soon as the have a port.

 

[Lord Dakier]

Whether they by a flag check do or do not need naval superiority is irrelevant to the fact that they still need to deal with the largest navy in the world.

Air power is the only hope of sea lion becoming a more likely chance and currently the AI doesn't do a good enough job of pressuring Britain, maybe it can't due to rubber imports.

 

[LiberiusX]

I think AI Italy is more likely to go bananas with naval invasions, particularly if it locks up the Mediterranean before the US enters the war. Once accomplished, I've seen Italy rampage through the Pacific and India. It's amazing to watch and we've had pictures of Italy invading GB.

 

[Tarkilth]

I've seen them do it, but it is, as it should be, rare. As a bonus, when they actually manage to invade and land divisions there they're so far 3/3 on actually committing and making UK surrenderer, so no silly sacrificing divisions on impossible naval invasion at least.