Is it forbidden to release a space nazi mod? (no flame)

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It is player generated content though, how can Paradox be responsible for content the players create?

Because they enable it. Think of it as you consciously giving a child keys to a car, and then it ends up in some giant wreck. You may not have been driving but you hold ultimate responsibility.

That is, Paradox may not be making the content, but it is enabling it and providing a platform, therefore is culpable to a certain degree.

Also lets not turn this into another thread about Communism please and thanks. We all have our political views, this is a question of mere reality/practicality, not a political commentary.
 
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When I read the OP I was like, "yeah, nah can't see a problem with that".

Then I read the thread, and now I see a problem with that.
 
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Haven't you heard about the GTA mod that caused the game to be pulled from stores in the US? Was also banned in Australia due to the mod. It's stupid, but this stuff happens.

They got into trouble because the assets were part of the base game, a nazi mod made by a single user would not get them in trouble because their assets would not be part of the base game. It would be completely a 3rd party mod. Hot Coffee was not.
 
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Space Nazis now. Do it family, symbols and all
 
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so long as you follow the lines and go no further than what is being used for HOI then you should be good, I would though advise using the censored version of hitler as Germany has access to the same steam works and there could a legal issue there
 

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I'd actually be a bit surprised if you can't *actually* do Space Nazis (short of actual swastikas) in the vanilla game. The ethics and government type is there, and I'd be surprised if you can't manage a red field, white circle and black cross logo. German name lists are certainly no problem, and may well be in because Germany is a major market. You can play as Humans from Sol if you wish.

What more do you actually need?
 

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Someone is still bound to make a Nazi mod despite what the rules say, if they can not put it up on workshop they will release a manual version on the internet. Also, considering that a good chunk of the player base is not German.
 
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Haven't you heard about the GTA mod that caused the game to be pulled from stores in the US? Was also banned in Australia due to the mod. It's stupid, but this stuff happens.

Of course it happens but that doesn't mean the industry should be more careful and gladly it isn't otherwise video games wouldn't be sold and mods wouldn't exist but the industry and the shops know they need the sales. Well not everywhere in the case of Australia but since people buy more and more online, such behaviour is incredibly stupid. The whole coffee shop affair was stupid from all involved party, which includes Rockstar who didn't even try to defend themselves.

Regarding the topic here:
Swastikas aren't illegal in Germany. They exist in movies everywhere but many (mostly Germans) think video games would need to be accepted as art but that's not it, the problem was always that not a single company ever used the paragraph that protects movies, pictures or books, they always recoiled and censored beforehand. This way no one knows if it's illegal in video games or not, because no judge had ever to decide. So is making such a mod illegal somehow? No one knows and probably not but no one will care too, even though Paradox of course has to make dispositions but it's safe just publishing it elsewhere.
 
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Acknowledged. I will make my mod using an iron cross as emblem and won't include a Hitler's portrait just to be on the safe side. Maybe I can modify the default human clothing to better suit the theme of the mod?

I plan to keep my mod forum and Workshop friendly.
 

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I live in Russia and had to study history for my university, so believe me, they weren't the good guys other than being the "lighter shade of black against a darker shade of black". What Nazis did to others, Bolsheviks did to themselves. Sent millions of people to prisons for being unable to work at an impossible rate, murdered millions of people for absolutely no reason at all, squeezed the entire food supply out of every village available until there was none available for the villagers to even survive, etc. etc. And all of that BEFORE the WWII. USSR was built on blood.

But anyway, I don't see the reason why you can't do a mod like that. After all, it's history, and trying to blank out such a dark part of it only makes it worse.

This is IMO why Nazi Germany was far worse than the Soviet Union, but I want to make it clear that I am certainty not trying to claim that the USSR is without guilt or somehow benevolent.

There are nazi mods for Civ 5 I believe it is fine.

True, but OP is also wondering about the Paradox forums, and it should be fine there if OP doesn't include any Swastikas.
 
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Germany is very stright when it comes to Nazi-Stuff like flags, uniforms or symbols. Sometimes it seems ridiculous how extreme their laws on that matter are, but if you are born and raised there (or in austria), you not only learn to accept it, but to actually unterstand the deeper purpose of it. And while I (as a austrian) could of course tolerate a picture of Hitler or the 'real' Nazi-Flag in a historical game (like HoI), I can also unterstand everyone who thinks that this is something they not want to see. After all, I am actually quite happy that our countries have so harsh laws on their nazi-past.
 
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No need for realism, might as well borrow heavily from Iron Sky. :D

After their successful invasion of earth from their hidden base on the dark side of the moon, the space nazis eventually discovered FTL two centuries later.
 

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This reminded me I need a name list so I can make the empire from LotGH
 
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