Is it even possible for France to convert their Capital back to Catholic?

[The Zealot]

But the base value is 16+5. That alone is already 21%. 17.4% is not enough to overcome that. No where near enough. Also, Fort Level is irrelevant, it's 1500. Maybe fort level 3 at most. Also, so is Cathedral, again it's 1500, and Cathedral is a solid 100 years away? It's still pretty far from possible, even if theoretically they get every single bonus. I don't think it's even possible still.

(Not to mention the permanent -25% they are gonna have from religious fanatics for the rest of the game XD)

The game decided that France will be Protestant in that game. Paradox has spoketh.

 

[Krilnik]

In my Spanish game, they did convert it eventually. It was Reformed and they were Catholic. Even though they converted it, having wrong religion in their highest base tax and capital province for long time crippled them A LOT. I run through them like knife through butter, like it isn't even France.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

If you stack modifiers, you can convert a hostile culture Roma to animist without NIs boosting your strength.

Converting Paris as any Christian after zeal wears off would be a complete joke by comparison, especially if it's accepted culture. Of course, it's not likely for the AI.

 

[birincikalite]

Will we see a Protestant Iberian center/nation? It's coded to be very hard though I presume not impossible.

 

[Rider_of_Doom]

In my last 3 games I haven't saw a Protestant country in Scandinavia. That's sad. :sad:

 

[sermaciej]

err, nothing. Just ahistorical, as Poland is one of the most catholic minded states in that timeframe.. Fighting Ottomans and all.. Oh nevermind i guess

Thing is, Muscovy got Protestant in that game due to poland.

Muscovy couldn't have protestantism spread, as it was inside catholic faith. And Poland had pretty big protestant (and reformed) presence.

 

[Rainbow Mirage]

Come back when it actually amounts to something.

Even England doesn't want to convert Protestant anymore, even when hosting a reformation center. I can't recall the last one in a thousand games that ended up with France converting to anything other than Catholic.

I have a scottish game from 1.7 where France went reformed because half their land flipped during the reformation.

 

[Incompetent]

Paris vaut bien un culte.

 

[Haccoude]

err, nothing. Just ahistorical, as Poland is one of the most catholic minded states in that timeframe.. Fighting Ottomans and all.. Oh nevermind i guess

Thing is, Muscovy got Protestant in that game due to poland.

If IIRC the PLC was actually the most religiously tolerant country in Europe.

 

[anomanderus]

If IIRC the PLC was actually the most religiously tolerant country in Europe.

But 100 years after the fall of the PLC during the first world war there were claims in Poland that the Germans sought to create a state that would maximize Jewish population percentages- Judeopolonia

So obviously the tolerance didn't last

 

[Pellucid]

LOL Anomanderus. I see your logic.

This sort of scenario is why I think the missionary conversion formula needs to be changed and balanced. I've actually modded my own game, to ensure that this sort of province can always be converted assuming ideas and decisions are taken, but balancing it so that overall missionaries are slower. But there are limitations, because the missionary strength is only ever additive/subtractive and nothing else affects it.

If I didn't play Ironman, I'd want to mod mine so that instead of it being a +/- absolute value modifier for religious conversion, it would be a +/-% conversion speed. So all provinces could always be converted given enough time, but a province like the Paris in this screenshot would take decades of missionary work.