Is forming Prussia worth it with Brandenburg?

[Marshall Thomas]

I know a lot of players like to form Prussia for role-playing purposes, but is it advantageous to do so with Brandenburg?

Three of the four new provinces you get cores on have excellent base tax values. You get the military reforms at land tech 30. Your primary culture switches to Prussian (is this a nice advantage?) and you get a step towards centralization.

But, on the other hand, you only get a measly 2 prestige. Most of significant of all though, is that you have to convert away from Catholicism. If you're in a situation where you wouldn't normally want to convert, I don't know if forming Prussia is worth it. But if you're in a situation where you'd want to convert anyway, then I suppose it is worth the advantages.

What do you think? Thanks in advance

 

[Voltigeurs]

it's worth it just for the military reform and you can always convert back ^^

*8 Hundreds Gazillions rebles appeared out of nowhere, have fun !*

 

[ind2bc]

How does one go about forming prussia with brandenburg as i have never done it but played quite a bit of BB games

 

[Pewt]

How does one go about forming prussia with brandenburg as i have never done it but played quite a bit of BB games

You need to own Ostpreussen as well as one of Danzig or Hinterpommern. In addition, you need to be Protestant or Reformed, have DIP7, and probably one or two other things. I don't remember if you have to be saxon or not; I know you don't for the TO formation.

 

[unmerged(80402)]

Well also, it give you cores on danzig, warmia, osterprussen and memel...

 

[ind2bc]

So if you form Prussia as BB you will get the normal cool Prussia look and not the messed up TO look

 

[Pewt]

So if you form Prussia as BB you will get the normal cool Prussia look and not the messed up TO look

The TO, Prussia, and generic Pomeranian/Saxon/Prussian countries may all have different decisions to form Prussia, but they become the same country with the same colour, flag, decisions etc.

 

[ind2bc]

I just never really wanna play TO because of all of the northern lands

 

[Nerga]

I know a lot of players like to form Prussia for role-playing purposes, but is it advantageous to do so with Brandenburg?

Three of the four new provinces you get cores on have excellent base tax values. You get the military reforms at land tech 30. Your primary culture switches to Prussian (is this a nice advantage?) and you get a step towards centralization.

But, on the other hand, you only get a measly 2 prestige. Most of significant of all though, is that you have to convert away from Catholicism. If you're in a situation where you wouldn't normally want to convert, I don't know if forming Prussia is worth it. But if you're in a situation where you'd want to convert anyway, then I suppose it is worth the advantages.

What do you think? Thanks in advance

It is definitely worth it. Military reforms might as well be called "You win every land battle forever" because that discipline bonus is insane.

 

[unmerged(80402)]

I just never really wanna play TO because of all of the northern lands

Well those lands are good to gain IE...

 

[Marshall Thomas]

The Teutonic Order just formed Prussia and now I don't have the option to form Prussia in my list of decisions. I loaded a 1399 game as The Teutonic Order and "form kingdom of Prussia" is not among their list of decisions. How did this happen? Is there anything I can do to still for Prussia?

Thanks in advance

 

[Tigurus Fay]

The Teutonic Order gets that decision automatically around 1500 I believe.
They also got like no requirements for it. Nearly anyhow.

I reckon the only thing now is to annex Prussia and maybe you can form it then?

 

[ind2bc]

there can't be 2 prussias so thats why you lost it and if you annex them it should be able to form it again and its not available till a certain date i don't know when so it wouldn't be there at the beginning of the game

 

[sprites]

TO needs to wait till the protestant reformation before becomming Prussia.

 

[mejla]

the decision to form Prussia as TO appears in your list right after protestantism starts.

EDIT: sprites quicker lol .)

 

[ind2bc]

And i'm guessing 99 out of 100 times they will form prussia as soon as possible so you have to take them out when they are still TO

 

[unmerged(204522)]

just destroy prussia and brandenbergs decision will reappear.....

 

[ind2bc]

Then become Prussia and rule all of Europe except GB damn that channel

 

[unmerged(187334)]

If Prussia is smaller then you then you will actually get a mission to vassalize, and later annex Prussia.