Is EU4 currently still fun to play?

[A-150]

The AE is dumb, 2 provinces = 35 AE??? The HRE also never gets many reforms done, and after the Protestant Reformation there are hardly any catholic members left, usually just 5 or 6 electors (sometimes less). Each new dlc adds some nice new features, but many things that are broken/unbalanced/nonfunctioning are left the same. But i still think its fun to play, i mostly have a mod on though anymore.

 

[DDRJake]

After having this game and its predecessor monopolize my free time for years, I can still say I get excited at thinking up new campaigns, dancing around politics and crushing my foes so yes, it's still currently fun for me.

 

[lymond]

Why do I play this game???!!!! WHY???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[rabbithop1]

Why do I play this game???!!!! WHY???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because simulating or creating new history is fun.
That said.. In my opinion, outside of offering a nice base, crucial details/basics of eu4 are still very bad such as right now the coalition/AE madness and the fact there's still nothing to do in peacetime, which has been a problem since the game came out.

 

[IcyBlizzard]

Multiplayer can make you spend hours waiting just for the start LEL.

So damn right it's fun

 

[Karweg]

Jake, I love how the only game you have registered under your profile is ship simulators extreme.

More on topic, as long as you feel like the game is entertaining enough to keep coming back to, it is fun. If you are having issues with certain game mechanics and feel like the game is constraining you too much you can always mod things like liberty desire and AE. No one can force you to play EU4, so if you feel you are not having fun you can always put aside eu4 for a while and pick up another game, or try an overhaul mod.

 

[zyphial]

I'm going to assume this is sarcasm given that you're wrong on every count.

While he was obviously sarcastic, to be fair there are no such statistics that can reflect the current state of the game one way or the other, only expectations based on the previous state of the game. AoW and its patches were amazing, and plenty of people will ride that excitement into buying ED. The question isn't whether people will buy ED, the question is whether ED will encourage or discourage people from buying DLC_NEXT.

@OP I find the game tends to rise and fall in enjoyment as more patches/changes roll out, rather like the stock market over time. AoW was a peak, and the game is in a "fun recession" right now. AE+Coalitions are out of whack, AI has gotten more idiotic in warfare, more arbitrary hard-rules are being imposed on the "sandbox" with little explanation, fun is being sacrificed for "art," features are getting axed for subpar replacements, and the devs are assuming a defensive attitude about everything (notice which posts they're choosing to respond to?).

I have no reason to purchase El Dorado, and my excitement for EU4 is really low atm. Of course I believe in Paradox (I bought Cities the instantI learned it was under the Paradox umbrella), and I know that PDS in particular has a really good culture - just look at CK2, I check the forums every day for a new DLC and my money is practically burning a hole in my pocket! ...but I'm very upset with the direction EU4 is going.

I will say Liberty Desire is awesome and its previous version was my number 1 complaint in AoW. Good things are still happening here... but the general trend is down for now.

 

[Kung Zog]

I have never played vanilla (for even a second), but M&T is well, well, worth a play. I'm eagerly awaiting it to be patched up to date.

 

[josh127]

It's still kind of fun. Not as fun as 1.9.2, but I don't see any better grand strategy options out there so I guess I won't move on just yet.

 

[WhiskyGlen]

It is, Krajzen is well-known for his sarcasm

Which should lead to an infraction for trolling based on their definition.

 

[SuiciSpai]

Yes, is fun to play. Better than ever actually. Its not Epic Battle Fantasy 4, but its ok

 

[Marshall Thomas]

For me, EUIV is nothing less than a masterpiece. I have a good number of strategy games here on Steam and some of them are quite brilliant; but if I could only keep one, it would without a doubt be EUIV.

If I could change one thing though, it would be to add some more activity during peacetime.

 

[Krajzen]

It is, Krajzen is well-known for his sarcasm

I am still wondering how can I post so many stupid posts written in bad English and still have no warnings/bans (...except friendly 'reminder about my funny joke about particular nation lol)

I also cannot grasp the fact I have so absurd number of posts on this forum to the point of becoming well - known in anything :0

 

[Dakilla TM]

Why not try the game and see for yourself? I'm always an aggressive expansionist, and the new changes do hinder my progress, but it's still a fun game! If you think some parts should be changed, like AE values or liberty desire, then mod it yourself. I've been doing that for months and I play the game the way I think is balanced and fun.

 

[Peachrocks]

Why do I play this game???!!!! WHY???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I find myself asking this question too... A lot. Whether you're being sarcastic or not . Look I know a lot of you guys love it but there's no denying the lack of documentation on features, the fact the game doesn't correctly tell you what will happen as a result of a given action (lying interface) as well as certain inconsistencies and lack of explanation of features but that's not even getting into the 'intentional' stuff which can be argued and is largely subjective based on personal preference and that's more than fine fine but the other stuff is non argument territory.

There's two answers to this question.

1. A lack of competition. This is the big one. There is very little meaningful competition right now which means if you want a new grand strategy game, there's not much choice which is one reason.

2. The hope it might get better. Hope I've learned is a dangerous word but all the same this could be a reason.

Last of all, smaller nations have it a good deal rougher than before. Numerous changes in the last patch really hurt smaller nations much more than larger ones which is why some might think it's 'better than ever' and others think it's annoyingly unplayable. As always there's ways to survive as smaller nations but it depends a little bit more on luck than it did before with ways to cut bigger nations down to size being reduced. At the very least, your early progress is a quite a bit harder .

 

[Beagá]

Victoria is a more solid approach than EU (and I´d say even HOI, which is trying way too much to become a wargame for its own sake).

 

[jenden_bm]

I've been without laptop for almost a month and thus missed ED and its accompanying patch. I've heard that you can't do manual exploration now and that vassal feeding is much harder now due to liberty desire. Is it still possible to expand a lot via other modes of expansion, or are you forced to expand more slowly?

If all you're missing is just the latest patch then I would not recommend bothering with it - it's just a waste of time. It reduced the fun it brought no improvements to compensate. You much better off with 1.9 or 1.10

 

[Duruial]

Yeah, it is still fun to play. I find it lagging a bit on my system since the last expansion, but I have a new system in the works to fix that problem. The last expansion though, with the new exploration mechanics, just love it.

 

[fleetothemoon]

It's still fun I'd say!

I should specifcy my experience was in the HRE. To the person playing Poland, I assume you went east instead of west. It's not fun at all there, it forces you to AFK for 30-40 years with almost literally nothing to do.

Playing as a HRE minor can still be quite fun.
You start as a weak minor and you progress gradually to a medium power, serving as the check to the balance of power between France and Austria, allying with one of them to make sure the other do not get too powerful. Eventually you'll have to crush one of them in the thirty years war... and by then you'll want to have grown in enough power to become on par with the victor for they will stab you in the back soon enough. Once you defeated the victor, you are now on the path to hegemony... usually by forming Germany or becoming HRE emperor. By then, it's probably time to quit the game and wait for the next DLC.

 

[Zwirbaum]

After having this game and its predecessor monopolize my free time for years, I can still say I get excited at thinking up new campaigns, dancing around politics and crushing my foes so yes, it's still currently fun for me.

Or getting crushed by them