Is Distant Stars/Grey Tempest broken in 2.4?

[idSRG]

I'm not running the beta patch (as I'm new to this game and dont know how to set it up) but have all the DLCs.

I am late in my game, but did not research the tech's for the L-Gates at all, yet an NPC must have, as they opened and I was attacked.

Now, I'm able to 'JUST' stop the fleets that spawn at the gate in my system, but I was not able to raise my count on the L-Gate research past 5/7, even if I did the research that adds +1.

I eventually found a console command to let me into the L-Gate, and I assume at this point I need to kill the factory eventually.

Is this bugged however? Should the Tech's not get me to 7/7?

 

[Foefaller]

When the L-Gates get open by someone, they should be open for everyone, regardless of the number of insights they have.

If you weren't able to enter the L-Gates at all after someone else opened them, that's a bug... though, it's not normally just "get 7 insights and they open" it's "get 7 insights, research the tech they unlock, then do the special project." If you were able to enter with just 7 insights and nothing else, you might have been able to enter without them.

 

[idSRG]

I could not actually get over 5/7 insights, even spamming the repeat tech, and I could not get in even after it started spamming fleets until I set off the event fully (it seemed) with the console command.

 

[Methone]

This doesn't seem like a bug, but RNG.

You can get L-Gate insights from Anomalies. Frustratingly, you can get L-Gate Anomalies before finding an L-Gate, in which case you don't get the Insight at all.

In addition to the Repeat tech, you can also buy an Insight from the Curators, for 5000 credits, once every 10 years.

Once the Tempest spawns and attacks, you shouldn't be able to get more insights. All the Gates should open. HOWEVER, the L-Cluster star systems still follow the rules of 'you need to explore it with a manned science ship before you send anything else in', even when it's full of Tempest fleets so pick a scientist you're not particularly attached to, find the Terminal Egress system, and send the sucker in.

 

[idSRG]

Hmm ok. I'll reload an older save and give that a shot. I certainly did try and up my Insight counts post invasion, but it wasnt doing anything, stuck at 5/7, maybe it wasnt needed anymore and so was not updating.

Thanks!

 

[Derp]

it's hilarious how the exploration rules intersect with a tempest infested l-cluster. feels like the old x-com games where you scout with barely-armed rookies because you know they're just going to get noscoped by a sectoid half a map away

 

[Badesumofu]

You don't need to gather insights once someone else opens the Gates. If there is a bug here it's that you even have the option to research more insights. If someone opens the L-Gates and gets Grey Tempest, then all the L-Gates immediately open and become accessible by everyone.

 

[ComradeIan]

The bug, if it is that, may be that the tech continues to show up after the gates are opened. I've had the same issue, tried researching to close off the quest but couldn't advance past x/7.

Regarding not being able to access the l cluster, i believe that the gates are closed to all empires bar the successful researcher for a period of time after it's completed to give them first dib. All should be able to access after a while. Not sure how long though, haven't yet found myself in that position!

 

[Badesumofu]

Regarding not being able to access the l cluster, i believe that the gates are closed to all empires bar the successful researcher for a period of time after it's completed to give them first dib. All should be able to access after a while. Not sure how long though, haven't yet found myself in that position!

It depends what outcome you get. I believe if the outcome is Grey Tempest then all gates open immediately. Back when there was the possibility for the cluster to simply be empty, that outcome resulted in a delay of a couple of years IIRC before the remaining gates opened.