Is dhimmi always worth it

[ruianp2]

A loyal dhimmi with two privileges gives you +4 heathen tolerance and 100 ru... does this mean with -10 absolutism I can now ignore religious or humanist? Or get religious for cb and heretics but do not have to convert any Christian land?

 

[ruianp2]

Does this make Sunni best religion in the game? The more I think about it the more I feel it’s busted.

 

[Piotrzeci]

You don't need to guarantee autonomy for the ignoring RU impact, because RU scales with tolerance. On tolerance greater/equal 0 you don't have any impact. That's why Indian Sultanates or Ottotan have 100% RU. It can however still be good to pick Humanist, since it increases their loyalty and gives other bonuses, but it's up to the player, Religious is probably not worth investing into.
And yes, you can very much make an argument that Muslim religions are the best in the game, especially considering they also can get -20% tech cost from Dhimmi and Legalism.

 

[ruianp2]

You don't need to guarantee autonomy for the ignoring RU impact, because RU scales with tolerance. On tolerance greater/equal 0 you don't have any impact. That's why Indian Sultanates or Ottotan have 100% RU. It can however still be good to pick Humanist, since it increases their loyalty and gives other bonuses, but it's up to the player, Religious is probably not worth investing into.
And yes, you can very much make an argument that Muslim religions are the best in the game, especially considering they also can get -20% tech cost from Dhimmi and Legalism.

Damn I played for 1000 hours and did not notice the ru tolerance scaling thing...I just don’t have ru problem after I click humanist and I thought it was the +25 ru at work.

 

[erneiz_hyde]

Actually, pretty sure it's on tolerance 3 to have zero impact on RU.

 

[ruianp2]

Actually, pretty sure it's on tolerance 3 to have zero impact on RU.

Wait...ur right, I just read wiki 1 tolerance is like 50 percent. Good thing I did not revoke the privilege in my ryuku run yet.

 

[EarlKonrad]

Well, no. Humanism is still well worth for its other bonuses: -2 unrest, -5 separatism years and +30% BROT. These are all great and well worth having.

 

[lambda x.x]

Keep in mind aside from weird edge cases (Indian tech + EoC for example I think), non-Sunnis get +2 ToH from interfaith dialogue (burghers). That combined with humanist (+2) and legitimacy (+1) gives +2 ToH, which means 75% RU with entirely heathen provinces. But then, you get +25% RU from humanist, so you're still at the "ignore religion" threshold for typical setups. If you don't have legitimacy, Hindu can offer +1 ToH.

Given that, there is no particular need for ToH from religions in 1.30, so any religion with CCR tends to be better than Sunni, although Sunni is still a top tier religion b/c of Indian sultanate/Iqta (although Iqta is a bit meh since it has no consorts = no queen regent) giving +5% CCR and just in general good buffs.

 

[Piotrzeci]

Actually, pretty sure it's on tolerance 3 to have zero impact on RU.

Oh wait, you are right. Okay, I got it wrong then.