Is Aragon a better nation than Castile

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With the Emperor update, I have heard a lot about Aragon actually being a better nation than Castile. Is this true and is there a good guide for as how to play Aragon in the Emperor Update.
 

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With the Emperor update, I have heard a lot about Aragon actually being a better nation than Castile. Is this true and is there a good guide for as how to play Aragon in the Emperor Update.

If you are going to form spain Aragon gives unique missions. If you are not going to form spain Castile starts out better.
 

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If you are going to form spain Aragon gives unique missions. If you are not going to form spain Castile starts out better.
Aragon has some other interesting's goals, for example, become part of the empire or a merchant empire.
But as a AI player, Aragon it's second player.
 

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I like Aragon a lot better for different reasons:

1. You can get to the Genoa node a lot easier.
2. With your good mil ruler, you can do an easy timing war against the French and Provence once you hit tech 4. You then can take the provinces to feed the french releasables later for fewer AE.
3. Not stuck with Castiles bad ruler. If you like to save-scum you can easily get the promising daughter event with Aragons old ruler, if you disinherit his heir. This gives you the Wedding early, and also a good ruler.
4. You get to keep Naples.
5. No Castilian Civil War, and they can also deal with the Granadan revolt for you.
6. You don‘t need to core Portugal yourself but get them for free if you feed them to Castile. You do need to watch the province count though, in order to stay under the required provinces for Spains diplomatic formation.
3. Better position to go into Italy early, in general.

I would also recommend declaring Navarra of vital interest if you allied Castile and then take it early so you’re not stuck with them as a PU.

In my opinion, the only downsides to Aragon are that you probably only want to take exploration second or third and thus colonize later and that you‘re on a timer for the Spain decision because them having colonised to many provinces makes them ineligible.
 
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I like Aragon a lot better for different reasons:

1. You can get to the Genoa node a lot easier.
2. With your good mil ruler, you can do an easy timing war against the French and Provence once you hit tech 4. You then can take the provinces to feed the french releasables later for fewer AE.
3. Not stuck with Castiles bad ruler. If you like to save-scum you can easily get the promising daughter event with Aragons old ruler, if you disinherit his heir. This gives you the Wedding early, and also a good ruler.
4. You get to keep Naples.
5. No Castilian Civil War, and they can also deal with the Granadan revolt for you.
6. You don‘t need to core Portugal yourself but get them for free if you feed them to Castile. You do need to watch the province count though, in order to stay under the required provinces for Spains diplomatic formation.
3. Better position to go into Italy early, in general.

I would also recommend declaring Navarra of vital interest if you allied Castile and then take it early so you’re not stuck with them as a PU.

In my opinion, the only downsides to Aragon are that you probably only want to take exploration second or third and thus colonize later and that you‘re on a timer for the Spain decision because them having colonised to many provinces makes them ineligible.
You PU Portugal in mission trees tho, so why would you core them?
 
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With the Emperor update, I have heard a lot about Aragon actually being a better nation than Castile. Is this true and is there a good guide for as how to play Aragon in the Emperor Update.
Worse because the mission tree doesn't change if you form Spain diplomatically, you need to integrate castile and flip to castilian culture before forming Spain

But aragon is well poised to form Italy, and can PU feed Navarra to much of France so not too bad
 
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Investing in dip ideas can mean faster integration via monarch death than integration alone

Investing in dip ideas gives a small chance rather than little to no chance. There is a decent chance of inheriting one of Naples or Portugal, but it's more something to hope you get lucky for than something to plan for.

Feeding some of Portugal to Castile greatly increases the chance of inheritance and gives you a larger share of the Sevilla node after forming Spain. I think feeding Castile is playing with fire, though. It's very easy to give a colonizer too many provinces to form Spain by decision.
 

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Investing in dip ideas gives a small chance rather than little to no chance. There is a decent chance of inheriting one of Naples or Portugal, but it's more something to hope you get lucky for than something to plan for.

Feeding some of Portugal to Castile greatly increases the chance of inheritance and gives you a larger share of the Sevilla node after forming Spain. I think feeding Castile is playing with fire, though. It's very easy to give a colonizer too many provinces to form Spain by decision.
You can declare war on an African and give the colonies to them, England and France might also accept them
 

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Worse because the mission tree doesn't change if you form Spain diplomatically, you need to integrate castile and flip to castilian culture before forming Spain

But aragon is well poised to form Italy, and can PU feed Navarra to much of France so not too bad
You just have to be non-Aragon/Catalan culture, for example, Occitan. Better yet, form Spain as Mongolian culture for more OP missions :)
 

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aragon, even if you form spain, changes your play style.
Spain only has 1 colonization idea and with aragon's starting missions you can play in a style that allows you to focus on mediterrian sea instead of america and trade companies.
aragon is my favore nation to form Roman Empire simply because how easy it is to dominate mediterrian sea.
Also if I remember right with new missions aragon will have its own missions focusing on mediterrian and north africa if forms spain instead of castillean spain. (this depends on culture i I understand it correctly)

so... its just a "what would have happened" question
If Spain united under Aragon, where its capital is at mediterrian sea and focused on old world .