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I´m playing the April 22 beta and have inherited/conquered Hungary/France/Germany and have Regal Supremacy when it concerns religon. This have led to frequent demands from the Holy See to abolish lay investiture (which I have ignored). The provinces have rallied behind me (Rome is tainted). So now i`m wondering if it would be possible to have an event that creates a counter pope if there is a conflict between HRE/France and the Pope?
 

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In the current game there isn't a counter-pope event, and I think implementing it will be slightly difficult, it would probably require a new tag and quite a bit of coding.
 

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How ever interesting I belive there are more pressing matters at the moment.
 

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Would be an interesting idea though if MrT or Johan had the time to impliment it.
 

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How the game react If we create (in a mod.) a "king" bishopric title ?
 

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I´d rather first see the current bugs related to Popes fixed, for instance who becomes Papal controller seems to be more or less random and it´s still not too uncommon to see people with anti-clerical traits be Popes.
 

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Modeling the schismatic issues that the Catholic church experienced during this era has been discussed at times but the general conclusion was that it is far too complex (and potentially problematic) to be included at an anti-pope level. The most we can do at present is script stuff relating to heresy and excommunication.
 

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Zuckergußgebäck said:
How about giving a random courtier with eccleasistical eduction a claim on the title "pope of papal state"?
It wouldn't quite work, because the anti-pope would have no real authority, and no way to gain prestige and piety.
 

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Zuckergußgebäck said:
But did the counter-pope really have any authority outside France anyways?

I think it would be a quite good idea...

There were quite a few countries that aknowledged the counter-pope, and in my game being backed by the most powerful monarch in Europe he would have a lot of authority (as long as he did what he was told). But I guess that it will have to wait for later