Is a Confucian one faith possible?

[Arowan]

Hello,

I've been wondering if a confucian one faith was possible. We can't use vassals to convert land, and with so little missionaries available it's hard.

I suppose that conquering the whole world and then spawning rebels from ming or korea could work, but I don't have experience with converting with rebels. Could they convert Asia+Europe+Africa ?
If so, do you have an idea of how long it would take for them to walk and convert all the provinces?
Can they jump to america or islands if they have no more lands available?

Starting with Najd, we can have 4 missionaries. Is it enough to convert everything alone with only 4 missionaries?

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Ottomans --> wipe colonizers ASAP --> fast one tag --> piss off the Dhimmi a bunch is probably the best bet. Colonies would be the biggest pain so you'd want to block as much of that as possible.

Islam is tops for that kind of play since as long as you're Islamic, Confucian rebels will actually convert you. Meanwhile, if you have humanist you get 3 tolerance in wrong-religion land anyway as Ottos.

4 missionaries alone won't do it. Even as Buddhist it's pretty hard to manage, and they *can* use vassals.

 

[makaramus]

yea I think as muslim country you can do one faith confucian by rebelling dhimi, dowing aganist weak country and denying making rebels force demands then peace out to accept their demand after they %100 convert you

 

[Aepdneds]

Problem would be the bigger native nations in America like Incas and Aztecs. Confucian AI nations are tending to sync the faith instead of converting and the force religion peace deal is converting the capital only.

 

[holyvigil]

If a Jewish one faith is possible any religion is possible.

 

[makaramus]

If a Jewish one faith is possible any religion is possible.

colonies are still a problem althought since as mentioned colonies dont like to convert... so best solution is sneaking your capital into colonial region to prevent this and convert yourself

 

[Rikissa]

Any religion is possible with rebel strats. Which is a bit disappointing. If you move your capital, you can also spawn rebels in the New World, you just have to find a solution for the various islands.

 

[Dominion]

you just have to find a solution for the various islands.

Wild idea (bear with me): What if you would use your missionary for those?

 

[makaramus]

seriusly althought we should able to send missionaries to our own colonies... it should incrase their desire to become free or not I dont care this should be a thing :/

 

[Rikissa]

Wild idea (bear with me): What if you would use your missionary for those?

Yeah, but you can't actually be Confucian if you want to use Confucian rebels to convert land. You can convert the islands by missionary after you've broken to rebels, but you need to factor in additional time. It sounds easy on paper but you need to be in a situation where you can convert the remaining parts of the world at your leisure. How much time it takes for rebels to convert Europe and the Americans can vary wildly depending on your strategy.

"Islands" also includes places like Borneo or the Philippines or Madagascar or the Caribbean. There are ways to spawn Confucian rebels there but that's why I stated you need to find and choose a solution.

 

[Rikissa]

Hordes can generally conquer the world pre-1750, but with most tags it's a good idea to be as time-efficient as possible, especially on Very Hard. If you want an example, look at Florryworry's Tribal Coptomans campaign or his recent Ryukyu campaign where he tried to combine The Three Mountains with an Animist One Faith.

 

[Dominion]

Tbf, there's not much additional investment needed. If you can OF and handle rebel strats the biggest difference is "I need to be 10 years faster"

And since you're not going to start as a confucian, but get converted later on, the difficulty depends on your starting nation.

Maybe it's 20 years, but you can Onetag in 1700 as Ottos or France, many other nations can do it around 1750 as well. More than enough time.

Always gets back to "have you done x before?" and "who are you starting with?" as the only two questions that need to be answered.