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If you didn't jump the gun and buy MegaCorp just stay away for now. When the devs are back from their vacations (sigh) hopefully some substantial fixes will come out. Then will be the time to enjoy the game. It's a damn shame, the new mechanics are interesting, but the game is just too problematic atm.

Sign. The amount of bugs and the performance are gamebreaking at the moment. I cancelled my first run in the late midgame and did some observer tests. The AI isnt worth its name. Glaviusis is trying his best, but there is simply to much broken. It would wait at least one month for a try on 2.2.x...
 

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It is very enjoyable, has some bugs, but latest patch fixed alot. Machine empire work, they are just less OP then before. Same goes for synthetic evolution, just make sure that you give your robots equal rights before picking the perk. Hive minds are very fun to play. Mega corps are fun, loads of trade to do stuff with. The main bug is the stutter late game, which suck, but can be mitigated by playing a game without wormholes or warpgates and the smaller the galaxy the better it runs, the latest patch really helped my end game, thinking about starting a game with warpgates again.
 

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It's pretty playable with latest beta ,wormholes and gateways switched off ,small or medium galaxy ,not playing xenophile unless you are willing to mod pop growth and finally with glavius excellent ai mod. This set up will get me through Xmas
 

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Both my i5 6400 (desktop) and i5 83000H (notebook) can't handle the game after ~2350.

It becomes too slow to be playable. Graphics card barely does anything by this point. And only 1 core of the CPU is maxed out at a time, the rest almost idle.

And that is on a medium Galaxy, 0,75 hyperlanes, 0,75 world's.

I imagine if you play on larger galaxies you might need a 9900K or better.
 

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Depends on your definition of playable. A ton of new great features were added and stellaris is as deep as it has ever been IMHO.
There are some balance issues/bugs and the ui isn't great to be honest but nothing of that prevents you from enjoying this amazing update. I have not played machine empires yet but from what people say they and synthetic ascended empires are really weak but I'm pretty sure that will be adressed by the devs.
As for performance it's absolutely dreadful. I have an i5 4690k and a gtx 970 with 16 GB of RAM and while my pc is getting a little old it's well above the recommended requirements and it's. A chore to play past 2350.
I usually played on 1000 stars galaxies, about a year ago I downgraded to 800 and in this patch even 600 star ones are terrible. Seriously if you put a x sized maximum size map on your game you should be able to play it until the end of the game (2500) at least decently.
For the people who say lag is a localized issue, it's not. I'm not saying you are lieing, I played on a weak laptop for 8 years and was used to games lagging so I didn't mind/notice it. When I upgraded 3 or 4 years ago to that desktop I became accustomed to games running smoothly and started to notice much subtler lag spikes.
There isn't a single youtuber/twitch streamer I ever saw who doesn't have EXACTLY the same lag at EXACTLY the same time I do. As such I am forced to conclude that some people don't notice it or don't mind it or don't even know what lag is.
Besides even paradox never play the game on fastest on their streams for a reason and it's not just because it's too fast to play while commentating, just saying...
This is a 2 year old game and this has never been fixed. PLEASE PLEASE Please for the love of God dedicate serious resources to at least improve perforce. This is an amazing game and I want to play it!
 

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If you didn't jump the gun and buy MegaCorp just stay away for now. When the devs are back from their vacations (sigh) hopefully some substantial fixes will come out. Then will be the time to enjoy the game. It's a damn shame, the new mechanics are interesting, but the game is just too problematic atm.
Don't sigh for that. They are human beings who deserve holidays. They aren't slaves. They aren't essential staff at a hospital. This is a game. It's entertainment, a diversion from other things in life. If it's not working for you, then go back to 2.1 or just do something else. It's not that important.

Apologies if you didn't mean it that way, but I've already seen enough people complaining about the devs daring to go on vacation rather than work 24/7 to fix bugs.
 

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The early and midgame have never been better IMO
Definitely considerably more interesting. The early game is still a little slow at times. I wish there were more aliens to fight, but maybe they were nerfed so the AI wouldn't get boxed in.

I am one of the people who has some performance problems starting in the mid-game, but not enough to make it hard to play. It's worse than 2.1, but not awful. I wish people would accept that not everyone is having the same experience. It really sucks if you are hit by whatever combination of performance bugs kill the game, but that is not what every single person is experiencing. PDX said it's a priority post-holidays. Maybe they can talk to the Factorio devs and get it figured out.
 

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Definitely considerably more interesting. The early game is still a little slow at times. I wish there were more aliens to fight, but maybe they were nerfed so the AI wouldn't get boxed in.

I am one of the people who has some performance problems starting in the mid-game, but not enough to make it hard to play. It's worse than 2.1, but not awful. I wish people would accept that not everyone is having the same experience. It really sucks if you are hit by whatever combination of performance bugs kill the game, but that is not what every single person is experiencing. PDX said it's a priority post-holidays. Maybe they can talk to the Factorio devs and get it figured out.
TBH I haven't noticed any slowdown or stutter at all. Even on a gaiapalooza modded start with 45 planets colonized in the year 2346 the game runs smooth on very fast. (but I don't play on very fast, too much happens for me to do that)
I run an Intel dual core 3.4GHz i5-4670K processor and only 8GB ram on windows 8. GeForce GTX 760. Not exactly a beast of a computer, pretty mediocre actually.
 

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Definitely considerably more interesting. The early game is still a little slow at times. I wish there were more aliens to fight, but maybe they were nerfed so the AI wouldn't get boxed in.

I am one of the people who has some performance problems starting in the mid-game, but not enough to make it hard to play. It's worse than 2.1, but not awful. I wish people would accept that not everyone is having the same experience. It really sucks if you are hit by whatever combination of performance bugs kill the game, but that is not what every single person is experiencing. PDX said it's a priority post-holidays. Maybe they can talk to the Factorio devs and get it figured out.
TBH I haven't noticed any slowdown or stutter at all. Even on a gaiapalooza modded start with 45 planets colonized in the year 2346 the game runs smooth on very fast. (but I don't play on very fast, too much happens for me to do that)
I run an Intel dual core 3.4GHz i5-4670K processor and only 8GB ram on windows 8. GeForce GTX 760. Not exactly a beast of a computer, pretty mediocre actually.

Can any of you post a gif or short YouTube video so I can see how long your day ticks are by midgame? Im genuinely curious
 

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Don't sigh for that. They are human beings who deserve holidays. They aren't slaves. They aren't essential staff at a hospital. This is a game. It's entertainment, a diversion from other things in life. If it's not working for you, then go back to 2.1 or just do something else. It's not that important.

Apologies if you didn't mean it that way, but I've already seen enough people complaining about the devs daring to go on vacation rather than work 24/7 to fix bugs.
They are also a company that took my money and gave me a defective product. Money that I also had to work to earn. Including btw over the holiday season. Going back to 2.1 doesn't really work as a solution. Not when I have already bought the expansion. You want me to say that I take issue with the company policy that rushed this release out in that state just to win a few extra sales during the Christmas season? Fully aware that their people are about to take several weeks off? You want me to say that it's not personal, since I can't know who in particular made that call? Fine, I will state the obvious. It's not personal, I am mad at the company for treating me, the customer this way, not for individual people taking their legal holidays. But still the sigh is there. And it's a big one.

Can any of you post a gif or short YouTube video so I can see how long your day ticks are by midgame? Im genuinely curious
I can tell you how slow it was in the late game for me, since I actually timed it. It took me ~2 minutes for a month to pass. My specs, as I have stated before:
i7 8700k, 32GB RAM, 1080GTX, Samsung 960Pro

I have by now given up on that run.
 
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"Average" in this case meaning a fairly new computer. My old i7-3770S and GTX 660 runs it quite well the first 150-200 years - at that is at 3440x1440 with max gfx setting.

Most people who have posted their PC specs, when reporting problems, seems to be running GTX 1060 cards so if you have one of those you might be in trouble.
Sorry to say this, man, but your set up is pretty average. I think most of the performance people are having is coming from their CPU, and not their graphics card. From what I could look up, the I7 is only a 4 core CPU. I'm using an 8 core CPU and have yet to experience any early game lagging.
 

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It's pretty playable with latest beta ,wormholes and gateways switched off ,small or medium galaxy ,not playing xenophile unless you are willing to mod pop growth and finally with glavius excellent ai mod. This set up will get me through Xmas

Xenophile works just fine if you don't sign any migration treaties, or if you don't much care what your final pop mix looks like.
 

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I can tell you how slow it was in the late game for me, since I actually timed it. It took me ~2 minutes for a month to pass. My specs, as I have stated before:
i7 8700k, 32GB RAM, 1080GTX, Samsung 960Pro

What size galaxy? On a 600-star galaxy, my i7-3770 gives me about 16 seconds / month in the late game. This is significantly worse than pre-LeGuin, but still playable.

Edit: that's without DLC, though. Habitats and whatnot would likely make things worse.
 
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Can any of you post a gif or short YouTube video so I can see how long your day ticks are by midgame? Im genuinely curious
Sorry I can't. It's 1 per second on normal speed. 4 per second on fast, every 20th day does actually stutter slightly now that I am am playing. Pretty far away from literally unplayable and nothing new for me though.
 

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Sorry to say this, man, but your set up is pretty average. I think most of the performance people are having is coming from their CPU, and not their graphics card. From what I could look up, the I7 is only a 4 core CPU. I'm using an 8 core CPU and have yet to experience any early game lagging.

I was being snarky, hence the "", from my perspective the people with problems have above average hardware - at least in terms of age.
 

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What size galaxy? On a 600-star galaxy, my i7-3770 gives me about 16 seconds / month in the late game. This is significantly worse than pre-LeGuin, but still playable.

Edit: that's without DLC, though. Habitats and whatnot would likely make things worse.
That was on a 1000-star galaxy. All DLCs enabled.
 

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They are also a company that took my money and gave me a defective product. Money that I also had to work to earn. Including btw over the holiday season. Going back to 2.1 doesn't really work as a solution. Not when I have already bought the expansion. You want me to say that I take issue with the company policy that rushed this release out in that state just to win a few extra sales during the Christmas season? Fully aware that their people are about to take several weeks off? You want me to say that it's not personal, since I can't know who in particular made that call? Fine, I will state the obvious. It's not personal, I am mad at the company for treating me, the customer this way, not for individual people taking their legal holidays. But still the sigh is there. And it's a big one.

I can tell you how slow it was in the late game for me, since I actually timed it. It took me ~2 minutes for a month to pass. My specs, as I have stated before:
i7 8700k, 32GB RAM, 1080GTX, Samsung 960Pro

I have by now given up on that run.
Calculate out how much money you'd spend to go to a concert, a restaurant, a social event, etc. and compare the dollar per hour rate of those things to the dollar per hour rate of Stellaris. Stellaris is a fucking STEAL. The fact that they've produced this much content over two years for, what, $150 base game + DLC (the latter is optional for all players), potentially a lot less if you get it on sale, means you are getting a huge amount of entertainment value for basically nothing.

The game is offered with no warranties or guaranteed support. There is software in the world that does that, and it costs a lot of money. The company I work for does that, and we will drop everything to make sure even small bugs are fixed because people are literally paying us for that guarantee. We have a contract with them and the details are spelled out and read over by lawyers. Stellaris is sold as-is. You don't like it, then don't play it or don't buy it. You aren't guaranteed to get perfect performance, perfect balance and no bugs. They never promised that. Indeed, they can't promise that, certainly not for the small amount of money you're paying for it.

And finally, let's still remember that this is a GAME. This is not a life-saving drug, a critical medical procedure, a car part, a fix to a part of a house, or even food. It's an entirely unnecessary part of life that you, having disposable income that you do, have the privilege to enjoy aside from all of the other important things in life. That means you should get some perspective and realize that whether or not Stellaris is buggy at some point in time really just doesn't matter that much. Get the fuck over it. Seriously.

Going back to 2.1 absolutely works. You don't get MegaCorp, but you get a game that functions for you and you get most of the content you've paid for. Don't whine to me about the $19 bucks you dropped on MegaCorp as if you've been screwed out of your family inheritance. Where I live, that's two meals eating out. Get over it.

All that said, I wish they had waited two more months to let this bake. It's clear they had a deadline set, probably by management, and they were never going to make it with the size of changes in the game. I think we'll get there, as we have before, but it'll take until late January or February for it to be less rough. Management being management, this will probably not change. It sucks.
 
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