The half hour one programmer has to take to code it, I guess. Effectively zero downside.
Ironman Mode for EUIV?
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I personally never savescum, it's agains all my principels.
Although I can see the temptation. Ironmad mode is really nothing controversial, if it can help my fellow gamers (to have a more consequential/enjoyable ((in the long term)) game), then why not?
Although I can see the temptation. Ironmad mode is really nothing controversial, if it can help my fellow gamers (to have a more consequential/enjoyable ((in the long term)) game), then why not?
I have to thank FTL: Faster Than Light and XCOM for highlighting how much ironman mode can add to a game.
My only concern is this: What if the game crashes?
My only concern is this: What if the game crashes?
And then what makes it an Ironman run if there is an Autosave to to fall back on?
You can't quite without saving and the saving overwrites the autosave (the autosave also overwrites the regular save, naturally). Unless you force a crash, there is no way to fall back in a previous save. And if the autosave is frequent enough, even forcing a crash wouldn't gain you much time.
I believe that XCOM's implementation does an autosave after every turn, so it's impossible to fall back on a previous save, as if you tried, you'd just end out on the same turn.
I don't think Autosave is incompatible with Ironman.
Autosave every "turn"(day) doesn't really work in EUIV, though. It would make the game insanely slow. Still, if it autosave every year and it forbids you from quitting without saving, then it will be fairly difficult save scum anyway.
That is still "fairly difficult". This was already discussed before in this very thread. The point is not to make save scumming completely impossible, but to make it impractical enough people don't bother.
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What? Closing the process isn't difficult at all. Yearly definitely wouldn't be a short enough period. Ideally, I would do a periodic autosave(6 months or something) along with autosaves after big actions like declaring war. If you can just kill the process and recoup nearly a year of time then ironman mode is pretty much worthless imo.
What? Closing the process isn't difficult at all. Yearly definitely wouldn't be a short enough period. Ideally, I would do a periodic autosave(6 months or something) along with autosaves after big actions like declaring war. If you can just kill the process and recoup nearly a year of time then ironman mode is pretty much worthless imo.
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how ctrl-alt-del, a few clicks, and a couple minutes is any effort at all.
Personally, I think this feature is pretty unnecessary anyway. If you want an ironman game then use some self control and don't reload. The one thing I think it might be good for is distinguishing people who get achievements legitimately from those who reload constantly, but not if you can just kill the process to avoid saving and reload before you messed up.
Personally, I think this feature is pretty unnecessary anyway. If you want an ironman game then use some self control and don't reload. The one thing I think it might be good for is distinguishing people who get achievements legitimately from those who reload constantly, but not if you can just kill the process to avoid saving and reload before you messed up.
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I usually have heaps of willpower for CK2 but I imagine for EUIV I will strangely never have enough manpower. Napoleon had the same problem too. I guess great minds think alike :glare: bah, anyway, enough rambling.
A couple minutes is a lot of effort compared to a couple of seconds.
I guess so considering some people here consider it effort to NOT do something IE. not reload a game.
I think the difference to reloading by process in total and by resigning is less then 1½ min
atleast for me (tested on CK2)But no doubt Ironman mode without any "achievements" would be ok since Johan stated its almost no work at all.
Still I think its funny, that people keep putting up argumentation, about how people would not cheat because 1½ mins is harder than 50 sec reload
but why would players enable ironman option only to cheat it whenever things go bad?
The same reason people reload now even though they say they want to play a reload free game?
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