Changing how saves work would require hacking the .exe file and then distributing that hacked file online, both of which are illegal.
Ironman Mode for EUIV?
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Changing how saves work would require hacking the .exe file and then distributing that hacked file online, both of which are illegal.
I think this is a good idea in a similar to having a game option to remove the cheat console. The casual player won't know about the cheat console, but once you do know about it can be hard to resist using it at time (let's say you want your ruler to die so his heir can take over in CK2, activating an event where your monarch dies can be quite tempting). I'd love to have a way to turn off cheats so I'm no longer tempted.
Likewise, I'd like to have a setting that makes it harder for me to savescum.
Likewise, I'd like to have a setting that makes it harder for me to savescum.
I don´t see why, for instance, saving when large battles or significant events are triggered would be unpractical. The frequency is unlikely to cause harddrive failure, and it would cover almost all cases where the save-reload mechanic will have significant game impact.
Please do note that curbing saving-reloading is not a binary proposition - it is a continuous variable, both when it comes to the scope (I.e. frequency) and impact (I.e. the effect on the game of said reloading). Almost any form of Ironman would move this variable in the "right" direction from the perspective of those of us who would enjoy said game mode. Hence, we don´t really care that the "Perfect Ironman (TM)" is impossible - we´ll settle for improvement if perfection is impossible.
Ironmanphobia is truly bizarre and amazing to behold.
It´s the primary reason I became unhealthily fascinated with this thread.
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Would be really sweet, and would especially make me more likely to play the "Big Powers" - thanks for the response Johan!
Indeed. I haven't posted much but I've read it all. Seems very strange to me.
That's awesome. Does that mean there will be an Ironman mode, or that if there is enough backing it will be added?
I quite like achievements too, well wrote ones. Things like unite the English & French crown would be fairly simple but would be cool if it popped up with a bit of flavour text to say you've done what so many Kings tried to.
Great to know Johan.
Now, for the hysterical people out there against the OPTION, let´s explain what feature and option means.
Suppose a new car model will receive a new engine, that will consume twice the gas. That´s a feature. People have the right to complain, not everyone wants to spend too much on fuel for performance. It´s comprehensible.
Suppose a new car model will have a new color apart from say, red. It can now come in green too. That´s an option. People with the red car might not like the new color. However, will they still be able to have their red car? YES. Will it change anything in their red cars? NO.
So, I really dunno what the issue is. IMO some people just want to show a holier-than-thou attitude, I don´t save-reload yadda yada yadda. Fine, but let the option for others. Also it IS easy to implement (it´s just a save mode FFS, not gameplay or AI) so it doesn´t means the devs are using precious time and resources. They aren´t. I hate featuritis with a passion, but this isn´t a feature, it´s an option, and thus this whole 17 page discussion is borderline absurd. Or just filled with trolls.
Now, for the hysterical people out there against the OPTION, let´s explain what feature and option means.
Suppose a new car model will receive a new engine, that will consume twice the gas. That´s a feature. People have the right to complain, not everyone wants to spend too much on fuel for performance. It´s comprehensible.
Suppose a new car model will have a new color apart from say, red. It can now come in green too. That´s an option. People with the red car might not like the new color. However, will they still be able to have their red car? YES. Will it change anything in their red cars? NO.
So, I really dunno what the issue is. IMO some people just want to show a holier-than-thou attitude, I don´t save-reload yadda yada yadda. Fine, but let the option for others. Also it IS easy to implement (it´s just a save mode FFS, not gameplay or AI) so it doesn´t means the devs are using precious time and resources. They aren´t. I hate featuritis with a passion, but this isn´t a feature, it´s an option, and thus this whole 17 page discussion is borderline absurd. Or just filled with trolls.
There is really no point to be a troll (thats what you are)
Many and me included got the answer from Johan that we wanted (its very easy to add)
Then I don't see a problem with it! still most arguments inhere was invalid and the ones that I made about "achievements" seems to be the reason why its a good idea.
You may also note that the debate sparked positive sides in terms of attention.
Honestly you are clueless, anyone can see what you already wrote on the previous pages. You aren´t fooling anyone here, pal.
BTW, since Paradox actually thinks the Ironman idea good, they effectivelly shut you up.
BTW, since Paradox actually thinks the Ironman idea good, they effectivelly shut you up.
Have fun on ignore, if you keep trolling and fail to read my old posting here you really are a big troll..
Even my last post had this in.. learn to look at what people are arguing for before you go all flame.
But I guess people like you rather hate on those that put up valid argumentation against with actually saying ok if those arguments are removed.
As you see Johan already stated this is very easy to put in and thus I am all for it.
Earlier back you could also see my "strongest" argumentation against the feature.
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It is´t a feature. It´s an option. Since you still fail to see the difference re-read my previous post until you learn.
And yes welcome to my Ignore list.
And yes welcome to my Ignore list.
It's a good feature that many people would like, easy to code, good for marketing, doesn't affect gameplay for those who don't want it. Sounds good to me. In fact, it could be added to CK2 as part as the next big DLC
So long as it doesn't lead to pissing matches on the forum I'll have no objection to the inclusion...I play "roguelike" anyways; the reason I wouldn't use "ironman" is that I keep a large archive of saves so I can "break down the game-film" when it is over without having to take too many hand-written notes.
I love the idea of ironman. Watermarking tags arent worth the zots, though. This feature would be cracked to hell and back within eighteen hours.
Unabashed cheaters mean srs business.
I hope that in addition to Ironman Paradox adds an option that disables the console. Then I'd really have to start pushing myself. I think they should be seperate because some people might want to disable the cheat console, but still want to be able to save whenever they like.
Because there aren't already?
And thank you, Johan, for cementing the fact we're not asking for outlandish dev resources. That argument was getting old the first time someone said it.
this would be good, and wouldn't hurt those who're complaining as it has no impact on core gameplay elements.
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