Iron Cross for Darkest Hour

[Gytis]

Hello. With Iron Cross now at only €5 on Gamersgate, should I buy this expansion to enhance DH experience? I don't have and don't plan to buy Armagedon or AoD, DH would be the only game I could play this expansion with.

What is the level of cooperation between IC and DH teams to make both games compatible and balanced when used together?

 

[keeveek]

that doesn't seem to be possible. Iron Cross uses totally different (and worse than DH) map. IC is only compatible with HOI2Deluxe or AoD.

 

[chepaeff]

that doesn't seem to be possible. Iron Cross uses totally different (and worse than DH) map. IC is only compatible with HOI2Deluxe or AoD.

Wut?
* Will be compatible with Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon, Arsenal of Democracy and Darkest Hour.

 

[Amallric]

basically you will only get DH's interface improvements when playing with IC.

 

[xtfoster]

basically you will only get DH's interface improvements when playing with IC.

Until they release a "patch" that utilizes the new map and other features.

 

[vadermath]

TBH, I wouldn't recommend getting IC for DH, I believe it was primarily made for Arma, and only utilizes its features to the fullest extent; it isn't really balanced with AoD, and most probably especially not with DH, which seems to be changing a lot more about the game than AoD did. I certainly believe that the DH team didn't make DH with Iron Cross in mind.

 

[Fernando Torres]

We are working closely with IC team to get their expansion fully compatible with DH.
We are giving them tips on how to take benefit from DH features which they are doing.

 

[Amallric]

Until they release a "patch" that utilizes the new map and other features.

I don't know if you're aware of it, but IC already has a new map...

DH, which seems to be changing a lot more about the game than AoD did

I think you completely failed to understand the philosophy of DH which was to provide modability and UI improvements to the HoI2 engine without adding significant new features, as well as new softcoded content.

 

[Fernando Torres]

I think you completely failed to understand the philosophy of DH which was to provide modability and UI improvements to the HoI2 engine without adding significant new features, as well as new softcoded content.

No
Please read the dev diaries to avoid giving false information. Thanks in advance!

 

[MartinBG]

TBH, I wouldn't recommend getting IC for DH, I believe it was primarily made for Arma, and only utilizes its features to the fullest extent; it isn't really balanced with AoD, and most probably especially not with DH, which seems to be changing a lot more about the game than AoD did. I certainly believe that the DH team didn't make DH with Iron Cross in mind.

That was repeated many, but obviously still not enough times.
Darkest Hour engine is fully compatible with all mods developed for HoI2D:Armageddon (and more precisely Armageddon 1.3 patch). Changes to Vanilla files are limited to the minimum (less then 10 files in total) and ALL new features in Darkest Hour are optional and fully moddable.
The map, tech tree, 1914 scenario etc. are part of Darkest Hour Full which is located into a separate sub-folder.

 

[vadermath]

We are working closely with IC team to get their expansion fully compatible with DH.
We are giving them tips on how to take benefit from DH features which they are doing.

Wait, really? That's awesome. I'll be buying IC as well then, my mistake.

 

[Amallric]

Please read the dev diaries to avoid giving false information. Thanks in advance!

I read all of the developper's diaries unfortunately and that was the conclusion I drove from them. I don't think it makes sense to try to explain my point of view as you are a developper but please don't label something as "false" only because it differs from the official communication.

 

[unmerged(174159)]

Well you gotta consider that you gave your opinion and interpretation as fact, as opposed to pointing them toward the literature yourself. But OT.

 

[unmerged(189717)]

Putting some mods on DH on IC on Aod... that'll blow stuff up, I tell you!

 

[tuore]

I read all of the developper's diaries unfortunately and that was the conclusion I drove from them. I don't think it makes sense to try to explain my point of view as you are a developper but please don't label something as "false" only because it differs from the official communication.

AoD is the one that aimed to improve HoI2, while DH is the game that changes a lot more. New map, new tech tree, new scenarios, new mechanics...

 

[Amallric]

New map, new tech tree, new scenarios

What I said:

as well as new softcoded content.

new mechanics...

No. AoD has much more new mechanics.

 

[tuore]

No. AoD has much more new mechanics.

How would you know? You're not in the team and you don't know what we are planning...

 

[Amallric]

I know what is in the Dev Diaries obviously. And I think not being in the team allows me to have a much more objective opinion.

 

[unmerged(174159)]

I know what is in the Dev Diaries obviously. And I think not being in the team allows me to have a much more objective opinion.

You also don't have all the information

 

[Amallric]

I'm not sure if you read the quoted post so I put it again:

I know what is in the Dev Diaries obviously.