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Originally posted by The Witch-King
History is politics.

We are here dealing with fairly recent history (remember, the war ended just 57 years ago).
We are also discussing the history of events that involved a number of people in a number of countries brutally and cold-bloodedly murdering and/or oppressing lots of other people.

It is thus inevitable that a world war II forum in part turns into a forum for heated political discussion.
Some topics have been forbidden to prevent this, but the vanity of that is evident in the feelings that emanate between people on all kinds of different fronts here.

Just an observation.

Very good post inteligent and concisely put.
 

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Re: The Battle of the Atlantic

Originally posted by ComteDeMeighan
Dude the Battle of the Atlantic was never ever a factor in the war this is pure mythology please read Clay Blair's history of the Uboat war it argues quite truly that the production of the USA and Britain in merchant ships made the Uboats a basic non-entity they could have never choked Britain.......Of course Churchill had some quotes about the battle of the Atlantic scaring him but its a joke U-boat construction could not keep up with Allied production.......

Hmm... what a bold statment made on the basis of one book. I will not argue with the fact that during the war allied production of merchant ships exeeded that of german sub production, this is obvious when one considers how fast the americans could piece together a Libertyship. But to claim that the Battle of the Atlantic never was a factor in the war shows a serious lack of reflection, considering the reasouces spent e.g. on escorts and new asdic technology. If the German sub campaign was such a flop, why did the allies even bother to put energy into producing more tonnage, the very fact that they had to should underline the importance of the battle of the Atlantic. As if the british didn`t have anything better to produce during 1940 - 1941 before Germany declared war on the USA, or even after. And when the USA joined the war it took a year (until april 1943) before the situation was under control, and one could say that the German U-Boats was defeated.

In addition it`s not important wether the allied tonnage production is grater than the sub production in Germany, the question is rather if allied tonnage production could keep pace with tonnage sunk by german U-Boats. Before the americans joined the war this was a problem.

TMO