Inward Perfection - how to claim systems?

[magnate]

Hi all,

I'm doing well in my current 2.2.3 game but getting very frustrated - I'm too powerful and nobody will declare war on me despite how much I insult them. I can declare war on them using ideology CB but I can't keep the vassal states created, and I can't claim any of their systems. I can't ditch Inward Perfection by reforming my government either.

Can anyone advise on how to expand? It's a crowded galaxy and I'm hemmed in - although I have a tech and econ lead at the moment I will lose it if I can't expand.

Thanks

 

[stnylan]

Well, that is part of the deal with being Inward Perfection. In effect you have to play tall - habitats, ecumenpoli, and megastructures. And making good use of the market.

Or leastways that is what I found in my recent Inward Perfection game.

 

[Apophenia]

If you want to keep Inward Perfection then you don't expand. Part of the whole package deal.

If you would rather expand then keep Inward Perfection then use your factions to ethics shift until it is no longer a valid civic. Then conquer like a normal empire. Just know you will be down a civic for the rest of the game.

 

[kirell]

You can use Nihilistic Aquisition to raid enemies for pops (which can be sources of food, minerals etc. and also work as normal slaves).This won't expand your territory, but you will expand in power...


Also, i don't know whether the Colossus war goal is available, but if it is, you can go on a late conquest...

 

[Defiler99]

Last time I tried, building a Colossus didn't unlock Total War for Inward Perfection.
If you went Psionic, the God-Emperor/God-Empress event can solve the problem for you though.

 

[magnate]

Interesting - thanks for the replies. Clearly time to buy some DLC!

Now to start again without the 20% pop growth from IP and see if I can compete ...

 

[ImbaXenoSnipar]

You don't have to remove Inwards Perfection. You can bait the AI into declaring war on you by disbanding most of your fleet, so that the AI has higher fleet power than you. When the AI declares war, you have to quickly rebuild and defeat it.

 

[Robula]

The trick with Inward Perfection is to try and rapidly expand early and attempt to block other empires off on the chokes. The rest of the game is about pumping unity and research and building the galaxy's best economy.

 

[Stars_and_Bars]

Hi all,

I'm doing well in my current 2.2.3 game but getting very frustrated - I'm too powerful and nobody will declare war on me despite how much I insult them. I can declare war on them using ideology CB but I can't keep the vassal states created, and I can't claim any of their systems. I can't ditch Inward Perfection by reforming my government either.

Can anyone advise on how to expand? It's a crowded galaxy and I'm hemmed in - although I have a tech and econ lead at the moment I will lose it if I can't expand.

Thanks

First off, you should expand really quickly early on to defensible choke points. Secondly if you can bait your enemy into attacking you, then you can claim their systems and take them in the war. Personally I expel most of the species from the planets I conquer. Imagine actually having to live near Xenos like fungoids or molluscoids. Gross.

 

[The Founder]

can declare war on them using ideology CB but I can't keep the vassal states created

Ideology changes the Ethics. It never claimed it would grant you a Vassal

I can't ditch Inward Perfection by reforming my government either.

Change your Ethics so the requirements for IP are no longer met. The gamefiles check for valid civics only. You will not get the slot back, but the effects are done.
The same works for Fanatic Purifier btw.