Invasion of the Black Swans

[cpteveros]

Having recently read a thread in the OT Forum about Black Swans in gaming, I came across a post by Stauffenberg that was an excellent idea:

So, what if, instead of the events bringing in the Mongols, there were possibilities of similar invasions from completely different directions? Maybe something from Africa, or maybe Native Americans with more advanced technology coming across the Atlantic (like 1492 in reverse )? And you would never know when starting the game when an invasion might happen, from what direction they would come, how many there would be, or if there even would be any at all. You could make it have a specific set of possible large-scale invasions that can happen, or you can just make it completely random. Of course, in retrospect, we know that there was no chance of an invasion from the other side of the Atlantic, but for the people living back then it would have been nearly the same thing. They weren't expecting the Mongols coming and taking over most of eastern Europe either.

We all know and love the Mongols, but what about adding in some other potential hordes? While technology and all that boring stuff limited what happened in our time line, wouldn't it be interesting and fun to have an invasion from the Americas or Africa? It wouldn't have to be a garunteed thing, but could add some unpredictability and mayhem to the game. What do you guys think?

 

[James009]

Could also have smaller invasions from pirates, barbarians, or Vikings.

 

[hyme]

sounds good to me

 

[Mr. Capiatlist]

Atlantians maybe? Might as well. They are just as likely as a North American invasion. But whatever you go with; yeah it would be pretty cool.

 

[unmerged(463094)]

Well, by 1066 the Vikings were mostly done for, but considering we're also looking at Atlantians, I don't think that should stop us.

Pirates make sense, and there are some mods that already have Pirate events. You could set up a chain of events where Pirates take over a coastal city, destroy trade, and maybe eventually form an army of something, bent on carving out their own little 'empire' (their sucession could be like the Succession among the Orders, or it could be some sort of 'reverse piety' thing, where the least pious character sucesseds).

 

[cpteveros]

I think the hardest part would be doing the new skins and hair and all that graphical jazz. The actual events would be fairly simple to code up, I'd say.

 

[Kolokotronis]

Mars attack anno 1066

 

[Sarmatia1871]

Atlantians maybe? Might as well. They are just as likely as a North American invasion. But whatever you go with; yeah it would be pretty cool.

Yes, but the sheer coolness factor of having an invasion from a hyper-advanced Mayan Empire, complete with appropriate portraits and feathered headdresses, would make up for the utter implausibility.

 

[lazyguy]

Well, by 1066 the Vikings were mostly done for, but considering we're also looking at Atlantians, I don't think that should stop us.

Pirates make sense, and there are some mods that already have Pirate events. You could set up a chain of events where Pirates take over a coastal city, destroy trade, and maybe eventually form an army of something, bent on carving out their own little 'empire' (their sucession could be like the Succession among the Orders, or it could be some sort of 'reverse piety' thing, where the least pious character sucesseds).

I think the biggest problem with pirates is the lack of naval combat.

 

[Mr. Capiatlist]

I think the hardest part would be doing the new skins and hair and all that graphical jazz. The actual events would be fairly simple to code up, I'd say.

Talk to the guy who made the Little Portrait Mod.

 

[cpteveros]

Talk to the guy who made the Little Portrait Mod.

I will PM him, his stuff looks good.

EDIT: So looking at ideas above, Mayan Empire, Atlantians, maybe Africans? Martians would be cool, too. I can already think of the event I'd use for them..

 

[unmerged(193114)]

I will PM him, his stuff looks good.

EDIT: So looking at ideas above, Mayan Empire, Atlantians, maybe Africans? Martians would be cool, too. I can already think of the event I'd use for them..

martians with spaceships but only a tech level 6 offensive capability

 

[cpteveros]

martians with spaceships but only a tech level 6 offensive capability

Like having them land in a random province? That way it would simulate spaceships, and we could have them be a small army of hostile aliens.

 

[Mr. Capiatlist]

Like having them land in a random province? That way it would simulate spaceships, and we could have them be a small army of hostile aliens.

But in all realism Martians show up the next day they should rule the entire planet. Especially back in medieval times. Atlantians or advanced Mayans would at least still have better technology but at least be beatable. Just my opinion.

 

[RedRooster81]

I tried having random invasions from the Sahara, to simulate the Almohads. Didn't work out terribly well but that was a few versions ago. Look at mongol_events.txt for how to make an army suddenly appear in any given province (I haven't figured out how to make them appear somewhere random or someone's capital).