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AlknicTeos

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Good Evening.

I have a question to the Invasion CB - how to get it ? I have no claim upon the throne, but I'm smaller than the other kingdom, still can't use this cb ... have I missunderstood this requirement ?
 

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It's not about realm size but demense, if you have a smaller demense you can invade them without a title claim
 

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I have checked all nations, and I could invade HRE ( and only HRE ). They have 6 demense and me 13 ( with Leon, no claim upon HRE throne ).
 

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It's not about realm size but demense, if you have a smaller demense you can invade them without a title claim

It is about realm size, if you have 1 county with 7 baronies and one with 2 baronies and your opponent has 8 counties with 1 barony each then tough luck no invasion for you.

furthermore the invasion casus belli needs to be requested from the pope and costs 500 piety, thats propably why AlknicTeos doesn't see the casus belli because he doesn't have it yet.
 

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I'm sure it's not demense size, but realm size. Otherwise it'd be too easy to game by just granting some of your counties away.

Your target has to also be Catholic, and as FP says you have to request invasion from the Pope using the target's diplomatic menu.
 

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It is about realm size, if you have 1 county with 7 baronies and one with 2 baronies and your opponent has 8 counties with 1 barony each then tough luck no invasion for you.

furthermore the invasion casus belli needs to be requested from the pope and costs 500 piety, thats propably why AlknicTeos doesn't see the casus belli because he doesn't have it yet.

well, i have more than enough piety and good relation to the pope, and I have checked the requirements and only the last one wasn't fullfilled .. so at ledger #10 , empire size is the relevant number
 

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I'm sure it's not demense size, but realm size. Otherwise it'd be too easy to game by just granting some of your counties away.

Your target has to also be Catholic, and as FP says you have to request invasion from the Pope using the target's diplomatic menu.

same religion isn't a requirement, when I read all requirements for this cb.
.... or I just should play this game in english ..
 

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same religion isn't a requirement, when I read all requirements for this cb.
.... or I just should play this game in english ..

It's not same religion as such, it's Catholic only. The Pope can't grant a CB for an invasion on a non-Catholic country. There might be other invasion CBs for other religions, but I've mostly played Catholics so I'm not sure.
 

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It's not same religion as such, it's Catholic only. The Pope can't grant a CB for an invasion on a non-Catholic country. There might be other invasion CBs for other religions, but I've mostly played Catholics so I'm not sure.
Well now with autonomous patriarchs invasion for orthodox nations are now unusable since everyone has a different religious leader. Muslims on the other hand are "Invade ALL the things!" pagans can do this as well in theory but I've never seen it happen, maybe they don't get enough piety
 

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Well now with autonomous patriarchs invasion for orthodox nations are now unusable since everyone has a different religious leader. Muslims on the other hand are "Invade ALL the things!" pagans can do this as well in theory but I've never seen it happen, maybe they don't get enough piety

only mongols and special titled pagans can actualy invade.

All the other pagans are nerfed to the point of garantueed extinction...
 

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Pagans only get the conquest cb normally. Mongols get tribal invasion which is an absurdly op invasion casus belli that they can use on anyone.