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Hello I was planning to invade england as normandy at iron century start date and was wondering... if I use invasion cb from pope do I keep elective monarchy of england or does it change to my own realm laws?
 

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no idea, just in case, save the game
 

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If you usurp the title / get the title automatically, you get their election system.
If you re-create the title yourself it's based on your primary title.
so even if I conquer it I will stuck with elective monarchy... in this case getting independent and swearing loyalty to england is much better O_O
 

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After conquering, you could always destroy the title, then recreate it...
 

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if you use papal invasion it gets your succesion laws that you have on your primary title, i got confused when i conquered england as eustache and it changed into elective gavelkind.

primary title is not destroyable

edit : seems like it works for any other succesion law, just feudal elective stays as the succesion law after papal invasion.
 
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if you use papal invasion it gets your succesion laws that you have on your primary title, i got confused when i conquered england as eustache and it changed into elective gavelkind.

primary title is not destroyable
uhhhh.....
do you know what I am not mad... I am tring to salvage entire kingdom right now but I am not mad because despite what you said I was expecting it writing so there will be no misinformation around(Also I suggest you to remove or correct your comment)
I did not keep my inheritance law, in fact its still elective right now and I am tring to keep my dynasty on rule still
 

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uhhhh.....
do you know what I am not mad... I am tring to salvage entire kingdom right now but I am not mad because despite what you said I was expecting it writing so there will be no misinformation around(Also I suggest you to remove or correct your comment)
I did not keep my inheritance law, in fact its still elective right now and I am tring to keep my dynasty on rule still

it happened to me in my last game, i will try doing some tests to see how it works.

edit : seems like it works for any other succesion law, just feudal elective stays as the succesion law after papal invasion.
 
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it happened to me in my last game, i will try doing some tests to see how it works.

edit : seems like it works for any other succesion law, just feudal elective stays as the succesion law after papal invasion.
"I, Fredirick the conquerer invading entire holy roman empire by the order pope given to me! My line will..."
"Uhhh excuuuuuuuuuuuse US sir... but we got an elective monarchy here and ..."
"Did you listen to me"
"yea we did you see... we think you and your son or foreiner so we want to elect your son less... I think after you die we will give crown back to duuuuuuuude you took it from"
"THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE! I FORCEFULLY TOOK ENTIRE LAND HOW CAN YOU BELIVE YOUR ELECTION STILL MAT..."
"Ooooooooooor you can 'donate' some money to us to chaaaaaaaaange our minds"
 

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"I, Fredirick the conquerer invading entire holy roman empire by the order pope given to me! My line will..."
"Uhhh excuuuuuuuuuuuse US sir... but we got an elective monarchy here and ..."
"Did you listen to me"
"yea we did you see... we think you and your son or foreiner so we want to elect your son less... I think after you die we will give crown back to duuuuuuuude you took it from"
"THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE! I FORCEFULLY TOOK ENTIRE LAND HOW CAN YOU BELIVE YOUR ELECTION STILL MAT..."
"Ooooooooooor you can 'donate' some money to us to chaaaaaaaaange our minds"

IKR, doesnt make much sense to me either, feudal elective might have some sort of special code, maybe to make it availible to muslims and indian religions. it even stays feudal elective if tribal.

better occupy every county capital before enforcing demands.
 

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No, it makes perfect sense. After William the Conqueror took over England, wiped out the Anglo-Saxon nobility, laid waste to the northern marches and then died the Althing immediately elected Edward Aetheling as the next king.
 

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No, it makes perfect sense. After William the Conqueror took over England, wiped out the Anglo-Saxon nobility, laid waste to the northern marches and then died the Althing immediately elected Edward Aetheling as the next king.
the point is they didnt have much chance are they? what would happened if they decided to not do and elected an angalo saxon ruler
yea...
 

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In the end, most realms irl been defacto elective, they just decided to elect the firstborn most of the time, and if they didn't they just wouldn't listet to the new king and brought the new one forth