Intro music CK

[Ancient Warrior]

The music isn't bad for an intro, but I surely don't want it in the game. It kind of has a feel of an epic upbeat struggle to greatness, but lets face it. Regardless of what medieval music really was, most people think that medieval times were hard and depressing. It's not called the dark ages for nothing. It should be more depressing and slow, kind of mystic. A mix of chants, woodwind instruments and minor chords would be about right.

 

[castorp]

"There was religious music and there was the music of common people. They did not cross any lines and kept to their selves the main ingredients. pre-harmony music (let's say pre-bach) is very, very hard to enjoy. This is why you rarely find it in music concertos."

ummmm, how much 'medieval' music have you actually listened to? i mean, de gustibus non disputandem, but you might do well to consider that this sort of music has a very large and active following globally that certainly is not limited to specialists. but i'll grant you that it'd be a little strange having sackbuts and crumhorns on the stage one moment, and a full 19th century-type orchestra the next. 'don't know if i'd really enjoy hearing Beethoven say back-to-back with early polyphony... would certainly make for a strange concert aesthetic...

also, outside of the notre dame school (ie leonin and perotin) most sources that we know of actually had considerable cross-over of elements. (this is generaly considered why there was so much contemporary debate over the use and nature of music at all within a sacred context). Think of somebody like Dufay who was not only prolific within both genres, but functionally used the same elements of composition for both as well. This seems to be more typical than not of the known sources. further, it seems that not only were secular and sacred 'styles' interwoven, but that sephardic and arabic influences also were an important part of the musical tapestry across the iberian peninsula decidedly and into the rest of christendom by extension.

 

[daedalus]

Interesting discussions about the music for CK. Download the short CK intro and judge how we catch the spirit of the time period...

http://www.paradoxplaza.com/crusader_kings.mp3

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Which superbowl is this? Sound like one of those Raiders/NFL movies

 

[daedalus]

Interesting discussions about the music for CK. Download the short CK intro and judge how we catch the spirit of the time period...

http://www.paradoxplaza.com/crusader_kings.mp3

/F

Which superbowl is this? Sound like one of those Raiders/NFL movies

Edit: Actually, it sounds a bit like the music of some games I have played, Warcraft II maybe?

 

[Quivis]

I think it's more for EUIII than CK. And Falalalalalan would be ok for me

 

[unmerged(547)]

Its nice, just please don't put in the "Whip" Song from EU2 either

 

[Vandelay]

I would have preferred period music but I´m not buying the game based on its score.

/Vandelay

 

[Martinus]

Its nice, just please don't put in the "Whip" Song from EU2 either

Kinky.

 

[Nikolai II]

I´m not buying the game based on its score.

Me neither, but I would have loved to get an hour of medieval music 'for free' (so to speak).

As Alexandru H. correctly says, it is hard to find medieval music in 'normal' stores (where Britney rules...)

But medieval folk music - what is there not to love, it is the foundation that later european music was built upon

 

[Varyar]

It's a good piece of music indeed, but like others I would've preferred som more genuine medieval music... depends a bit on how the rest of the songs will sound.

 

[Nikolai]

Nothing against medieval music, but this piece isn't so bad that some people seem to think! As long as there is no songs a la "Falalalala", I should be okay.

 

[Demetrios]

The music isn't bad for an intro, but I surely don't want it in the game. It kind of has a feel of an epic upbeat struggle to greatness, but lets face it. Regardless of what medieval music really was, most people think that medieval times were hard and depressing. It's not called the dark ages for nothing.

You do realize that the Dark Ages, as defined by most historians, were over by the start of CK? The CK period isn't called the "High Middle Ages" for nothing...

 

[Martinus]

Me neither, but I would have loved to get an hour of medieval music 'for free' (so to speak).

As Alexandru H. correctly says, it is hard to find medieval music in 'normal' stores (where Britney rules...)

Since most of it is not copyrighted, you can get it legally on that net.

 

[Lasse Nielsen]

You do realize that the Dark Ages, as defined by most historians, were over by the start of CK? The CK period isn't called the "High Middle Ages" for nothing...

Actually the high Middle Age is only the middle part of the game there's both early and late middle age in the timeframe, but your right the "Dark Age" (400-1000 BC ca.) was over at this point in time.

 

[Havard]

Since most of it is not copyrighted, you can get it legally on that net.

The performances are still protected though... Unless you can find contemporar recordings

 

[ErmineClad]

Interesting discussions about the music for CK. Download the short CK intro and judge how we catch the spirit of the time period...

http://www.paradoxplaza.com/crusader_kings.mp3

/F

I still feel either a score was composed that is radically different than the nature of the game, or we have been radically misled about then ature of the game.

I for one, and probably not surprisingly, do not particularly enjoy it. The attempt to feel big in a small world doesn't really appeal to me.... though if this listening was independant of the game, I wouldn't dislike it exactly.

~EC~

 

[Nikolai II]

The performances are still protected though... Unless you can find contemporar recordings

Although the same goes for scores made today? I'd guess P-dox had to pay for this soundtrack too

Nothing is wrong with the soundtrack - it's game music alright. I had just hoped for more.. but it's no biggie, a quick alta vista mp3 search for medieval did turn up a bakers dozen of nice tunes

(I just hope CK comes with the usual moddability as for music too)

 

[Vandelay]

Me neither, but I would have loved to get an hour of medieval music 'for free' (so to speak).

You still might. This was just the music for the intro I think - the in-game music could still be period music. Will be if Paradox stays true to form.

/Vandelay

 

[Jayavarman]

I would have preferred period music but I´m not buying the game based on its score.

/Vandelay

I agree, because one can always input one's own music if needed.

 

[unmerged(11620)]

actually, no...early medieval music had very strict boundries. There was religious music and there was the music of common people. They did not cross any lines and kept to their selves the main ingredients.

That is bs. Conveniant though it may be to separate music of the period into sacred and secular, the facts are they both shared common ground. Often enough the Priests who composed the masses were, in their youth, the very same Poets who wrote alot of the secular music of the time. And, the Cantigas de Santa Maria are folk melodies and dances but they express a religious sentiment.


My opinion of the music for this game as far as I have heard it, is that it's a poor attempt to invoke the period. I will most likely be listening to some Anonymous 4 CDs instead. Yes it maybe only modern interpretations of medieval music, but it's very good interpretations. Anyhow the truth is that technically any modern reproduction of period music can ONLY be interpretation.

Certainly the "idea" behind the poetry of the time is vary important to the feel of the peiod. Some medievalists like myself would go as far as to say that it is a requirement for the game to have an adequate feel. And, whithout even a modern interpretation of it, the game will be lacking.