If you start around the time of the First Crusade he's in Constantinople.Oh, there he is, thanks. Im gonna try bringing him to Scotland, give him land and take it from there
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If you start around the time of the First Crusade he's in Constantinople.
Jeez, this guy got around, screw the Scotland idea, Im going to Constantinople and have his descendants return to his ancestral lands as emperors, now thats a story for the ages!
Read about him. He truly is one of History's great obscure characters, and a real adventurer.
No kidding, just skimmed over his wikipedia entry and its amazing. Just got some reading for my commute tomorrow morning. Thank you again for this find
No problem, though I do wonder why his age was increased in 1.7 -- he was about 14 before, which is more accurate. He wasn't 16 in 1066.
Balain of Ibelin owns a country during the 3? bookmark. First bookmark with Jerusalem.
I've currently returned to my game as the King of Pomerania. Started in I think the early 1120s with the first Christian member of House Gryfita (aka House Gryf or the House of Griffins) who historically would go on to be the first kings of the mighty Kalmar Union (and thus one of the most prominent starting houses in EUIII!), snatched up enough de jure land to form the kingdom, and converted an eventual ruler to the ol' Romuvan faith. Promptly swore fealty to the HRE and used my time there collect the rest of "de jure" Pomerania, while also using their protection to safely pursue incursions into Lithuania. Re-converted before all my stuff got revoked, and now I'm once again independent, thus saving the slavic Old Pomeranians from their real life fate of eventually culturally assimilating into Germans.
Its been a fun game, though sadly my time in the HRE has resulted in a few unfortunate borders. Thanks to my AI family and vassals, I also hold a single, random county in the middle of Germany (Leiningen), half of Holstein (the two counties that DON'T border my de jure kingdom), the INLAND half of the Duchy of Verona, and the entire Duchy of Sicily... which would be cool, but the Duke of Verona inherited it and has refused to move his capital there, so all his troops pop up in the middle of the Alps. Dick.
But personally, I've carved out all of de jure Pomerania for myself, along with just over half of Lithuania with the exception of the Duchies of Livonia Polotsk, which is completely in Sweden's and an independent Rurik's respective hands. Just taking one great dynasty and giving them a new destiny is all.
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Guess I should fight the (also independent) King of Lotharingia for Holstein. Didn't really want Holstein, but I guess I if I took the rest of its de jure lands it'd at least be connected... unlike Leinigen, Verona, and Sicily...
EDIT: Bonus note about House Gryf: the ruler of Pommerania at the start of EUIII's timeline, was a bonafide pirate. House Gryf: rulers of Pomerania, Scandinavia, and freaking pirates. (well, one of them was... outside of CKII, sadly...)
Its been a fun game, though sadly my time in the HRE has resulted in a few unfortunate borders. Thanks to my AI family and vassals, I also hold a single, random county in the middle of Germany (Leiningen), half of Holstein (the two counties that DON'T border my de jure kingdom), the INLAND half of the Duchy of Verona, and the entire Duchy of Sicily... which would be cool, but the Duke of Verona inherited it and has refused to move his capital there, so all his troops pop up in the middle of the Alps. Dick.
But personally, I've carved out all of de jure Pomerania for myself, along with just over half of Lithuania with the exception of the Duchies of Livonia Polotsk, which is completely in Sweden's and an independent Rurik's respective hands. Just taking one great dynasty and giving them a new destiny is all.
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Guess I should fight the (also independent) King of Lotharingia for Holstein. Didn't really want Holstein, but I guess I if I took the rest of its de jure lands it'd at least be connected... unlike Leinigen, Verona, and Sicily...
EDIT: Bonus note about House Gryf: the ruler of Pommerania at the start of EUIII's timeline, was a bonafide pirate. House Gryf: rulers of Pomerania, Scandinavia, and freaking pirates. (well, one of them was... outside of CKII, sadly...)
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He's not playable until their family get their own county in 1192, though.
Noone mentioned Montferrat yet... "Crusading is our game."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rulers_of_Montferrat#Aleramici_dynasty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rulers_of_Montferrat#Aleramici_dynasty
Funnily enough, Eadgar of Wessex managed to become king of England in one of my games, and that was from the William the Conquerer start scenario too.
Yeah, it's more likely to happen as of 1.07 due to the new Faction mechanics. He has a strong claim and therefore it's natural for the Saxons to use him as their focus of resistance against the Normans, which is what happened historically.
I'd love to see Ælfwine Knytling become king, but it's much less likely because he starts in Toulouse and (AFAIK) the AI don't tend to invite claimants to other courts.
In the Duke of Lancasters court at the beginning of the game there is a couple of Welsh guys, If you check there family tree it goes back hundreds of years to theDukes of Gweynedd. I do not know who these people are so anyone who cares to enlighten me, but the family goes back for 400+ years
Yeah, their father was this guy. He was killed by Harold Godwinson during the last Saxon invasion of Wales, and there's an argument for making him king of Wales.
Interesting family.
Cool, I guess that could count as an interesting start. True Kings of Wales etc?
Cadoc of Cornwall, he was added in one of the latest patches
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadoc_of_cornwall
Apparantly a survivor of the royal line of Cornwall, got a game going as his family right now. (been messed up.. Norway won the intial invasion war, then split into Norway and England when some obscure duke was elected king of Norway, and since I was duke of cornwall by then, i had to follow the Norwegians..
Other than that: The Cometopuli in Bulgaria/Armenia. (can't remember their exact provinces now)
And the Dulo's in Bulgar
EDIT: the Cometopuli were the last ruling house of Bulgaria and the Dulo's were the founding house of Bulgaria (they're Muslim so require SOI)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadoc_of_cornwall
Apparantly a survivor of the royal line of Cornwall, got a game going as his family right now. (been messed up.. Norway won the intial invasion war, then split into Norway and England when some obscure duke was elected king of Norway, and since I was duke of cornwall by then, i had to follow the Norwegians..
Other than that: The Cometopuli in Bulgaria/Armenia. (can't remember their exact provinces now)
And the Dulo's in Bulgar
EDIT: the Cometopuli were the last ruling house of Bulgaria and the Dulo's were the founding house of Bulgaria
(they're Muslim so require SOI)
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Another interesting family is the Palialogos in Greece, at the Stamford bridge start they're the Doux of Epirus near Athens. Their claim to fame is being among the last Roman Emperors before their conquest by the Ottomans
Isn't this guy also in someones court at some point:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Marshal,_1st_Earl_of_Pembroke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Marshal,_1st_Earl_of_Pembroke