Jean-luc Picard v the revolution. HYPE
Are you buffing up the Greeks for this or will they need to hope to get by on their own?
Are you buffing up the Greeks for this or will they need to hope to get by on their own?
It wouldn't be a challenge if the Greeks aren't buffed up, I think.Jean-luc Picard v the revolution. HYPE
Are you buffing up the Greeks for this or will they need to hope to get by on their own?
Jean-luc Picard v the revolution. HYPE
Are you buffing up the Greeks for this or will they need to hope to get by on their own?
Actually, since Greece is the first revoltinary nation, therefore the Revolutionary Target in the game, they do get bounus that give them storng armies in manpower and morale. Through I do think that maybe the buffs should be upgraded a little to make them a little more successful earlier on. Tbh, I do want to see revolutionary Greece to be a challenge to the other European powers Napoleon style.It wouldn't be a challenge if the Greeks aren't buffed up, I think.
Is it just me, or did I take Cathay to be a bit more humanist empire than it seems to be in these recent updates. I mean they are egalitarian and humanist in culture, willing to integrate native religious in their faith and its somewhat progressive with women in its government, through I'm pretty sure its fairly traditional in the social level. I know Humanism is not one of Cathay's idea groups in game, but I personally see it to be humanist myself.
Bernat-Anton will make a fine Emperor, especially thanks to his talented wife and promising heir.
On a more global front, having three powerful nations out for you was already bad news. Greece kicking off revolutions spells bigger problems though.
Greece is small and weak. Let them rebel. /famouslastwords
I like how Greece, a country whose known for being the cradle of democracy in ancient times, was one of the first countries to switch to democracy in this AAR as well. That's actually really appropriate. Through I can imagine this idea of democracy in Greece's past before will lend a lot of cultural legitimacy to the Revolutionary Republic in the eyes of the Greek intellectual population. So I can imagine the republic to be pretty strong due to having an example to follow from their history. Anyhow I'm actually interested in what this Revolutionary Greece can accomplish. Maybe some sort of Greek Napoleonic Wars soon.
Also you have accidentally quoted one of your reposes to my statements about Persia and India in your recent post. You may want to fix it just so its easier to tell which statements are mine and which are yours dragoon.
I actually would kind of like to see some sort of democracy in Cathay tbh, with the monarchy in power of course. I mean, I know that the Annionas had some sort of democracy in Austria eventually. But it didn't really have much power and it was still an Absolute Monarchy anyways, and I'd rather have something different than an Abolitionist power-stomp across the world again.
The thing about revolutions is that they revolve.
You protest against tyranny and autocracy
Next you are executing people because they are a threat
Then you are getting executed because you are a threat
And then your juniors end up setting up another autocracy.
That is true, through it didn't really occur for the thirteen colonies when they had their revolution in OTL. But then again their goal was to break away from a country, not overturn a government like the French Revolution did. So theirs that.
Jean-luc Picard v the revolution. HYPE
Are you buffing up the Greeks for this or will they need to hope to get by on their own?
It wouldn't be a challenge if the Greeks aren't buffed up, I think.
Actually, since Greece is the first revolutionary nation, therefore the Revolutionary Target in the game, they do get bounus that give them storng armies in manpower and morale. Through I do think that maybe the buffs should be upgraded a little to make them a little more successful earlier on. Tbh, I do want to see revolutionary Greece to be a challenge to the other European powers Napoleon style.
Anyhow, now that we have liberal revolutionaries, lets see how Cathay would handle Communists and Fascists in a couple centuries.
Is it just me, or did I take Cathay to be a bit more humanist empire than it seems to be in these recent updates. I mean they are egalitarian and humanist in culture, willing to integrate native religious in their faith and its somewhat progressive with women in its government, through I'm pretty sure its fairly traditional in the social level. I know Humanism is not one of Cathay's idea groups in game, but I personally see it to be humanist myself.
Agreed, as of wait now Greece is a distant but significant threat to the European monarchies right now, being contained by great powers like Persia, Italy and Bohemia surronding it. Through I do expect that to change since I kind of expect Italy to be the next target for revolution due to its connections to the ancient Roman Republic, which would change the power dynamics between the Revolutionaries and the monarchies drastically.I quite like how the monarchies aren't just going after the Revolution. Historically the Coalition was not inevitable and it was the belligerence of France that forced long time rivals together. If Greece contains its expansion to the Muslims the monarchies of Europe will likely find it a power they can do business with.
There's an event in vanilla which turns Persia to Shia but doesn't check if it's Sunni, meaning it can happen for any religion. I had the same thing in my megacampaign and had to disable it in the end.Also how did Persia end up Shia since at the start of this AAR central Asia was Zunist like Europe, the Middle East and Northern Africa were and I don't remember Shia Persia at the start of this EU4 segment of the megacampaign?
Oh I see, that clears it up. Through I'm still wondering if Dragoon has an in-lore explanation for why Persia is a Shia Islam country instead of a Zunnist one.There's an event in vanilla which turns Persia to Shia but doesn't check if it's Sunni, meaning it can happen for any religion. I had the same thing in my megacampaign and had to disable it in the end.
Bharat crumbles, and Greece and Scandinavia become the first revolutionaries. A war in North America's about to begin. What will the future bring?
Revolutions incoming! A great and bloody set of risings, creating much work for future historians.
What a fascinating update. The entire power balance has been shake up so much, and it's all thanks to Greece lighting the match.
I quite like how the monarchies aren't just going after the Revolution. Historically the Coalition was not inevitable and it was the belligerence of France that forced long time rivals together. If Greece contains its expansion to the Muslims the monarchies of Europe will likely find it a power they can do business with.
Agreed, as of wait now Greece is a distant but significant threat to the European monarchies right now, being contained by great powers like Persia, Italy and Bohemia surronding it. Through I do expect that to change since I kind of expect Italy to be the next target for revolution due to its connections to the ancient Roman Republic, which would change the power dynamics between the Revolutionaries and the monarchies drastically.
I like how the rise of the Hellenic Republic occurred due to riots in the Bosporus, probably in Constantinople, almost like another Nika Riots. I also guess that the Revolution did indeed occur because of some damned fool thing in the Balkans here.
That American (or Camelot since that term hasn't been used in a while even through that was one of the names used for the Americas in the early part of this AAR) Revolution might be interesting, but I'm more interested by the Hellenic Republic now, since I honestly didn't expect Greece and Nikea to unify into a Neo Byzantine Empire of sorts. All the Greeks need is a Napoleon-esque leader and they will be very formidable indeed.
What is the capital of the Hellenic Republic by the way? It's probably either Athens or Constantinople and while Constantinople is a very prestigious and rich city, it's called the City of Men's desire for a reason, Athens would be a very important city to the Revolution owing to its past as a powerful democracy in the classical era, so its probably the capital.
Revolutionary Greece is actually prefect in addition to drawing a lot from Ancient Greece is also at odds with Persia, which I find very appropriate given Greece's rivalry in Ancient times from the Persian wars, Alexander the Great and even to the late Roman/ Early Byzantine era. I imagine that because of this, revolutionary propaganda will portray Persia as the ultimate enemy to the Greek Revolution (as Cathay is a distant power and the Greeks don't have as much of a tense history with Bohemia as they do Persia) and Persia will have the fiercest resistance to the Greeks in a war of attrition. Essentially I picture Persia to be the Russia to Revolutionary Greece's Napoleonic France and Nazi Germany. Plus, I kind of want Persia to win against the Greeks for once tbh..
Also how did Persia end up Shia since at the start of this AAR central Asia was Zunist like Europe, the Middle East and Northern Africa were and I don't remember Shia Persia at the start of this EU4 segment of the megacampaign?
There's an event in vanilla which turns Persia to Shia but doesn't check if it's Sunni, meaning it can happen for any religion. I had the same thing in my megacampaign and had to disable it in the end.