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NATO, not an alliance?

Well my NATO idea, didnt worked well so I change this to my original idea about intervene events. Here it is:
Code:
[color=white]
event = {
	id = 65900
	trigger = { 
		war = { country = RUS country = GEO }
	}
	random = no
	country = USA
	name = "Russia attacking Georgia!!!"
	desc = "Russian forces has invaded Georgia. Anything we can do?"
	style = 5
	date = { day = 1 year = 1991 }
	deathdate = { day = 1 year = 2050 }
	action_b = {
		name = "We will stop this by all means necesarry"
		command = { type = casusbelli which = RUS value = 24 }
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEO value = 145 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 65902 }
	}
	action_a = {
		name = "Give major aid to the Georgians (including men)"
		command = { type = treasury value = -700 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEO value = 125 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 65901 }
                command = { type = sleepevent which = 65902 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 65909 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 65913 }
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "Give minor hided aid to the georgians"
		command = { type = treasury value = -300 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEO value = 75 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 65908 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 65916 }
	}
	action_d = {
		name = "This not our struggle"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = RUS value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEO value = -100 }
                command = { type = sleepevent which = 65902 }
	}
}


event = {
	id = 65901
	random = no
	country = RUS
	name = "USA has sent aid to Georgia!"
	desc = "USA has show their true side. Let them taste the steel!"
	style = 5
	action_b = {
		name = "Kill the americans!"
		command = { type = war which = USA }
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
	}
	action_a = {
		name = "Let us wait. No need two fight two enemies at one time"
		command = { type = casusbelli which = USA value = 36 }
	}
}



event = {
	id = 65902
	trigger = { 
		war = { country = RUS country = GEO }
	}
	random = yes
	country = RUS
	name = "USA secretly aiding Georgia!"
	desc = "We have detected american support to Georgia. What shall we do?"
	style = 5
	date = { day = 12 year = 1991 }
	deathdate = { day = 12 year = 2050 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Demand the americans to stop this now!"
		command = { type = trigger which = 65903 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Bah! No one can stop great Russia"
	}
}

event = {
	id = 65903
	random = no
	country = USA
	name = "Support discovered!"
	desc = "Our support to Georgia has been discovered. The russians demand an immidately stop to this. What shall we do?"
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "We will end our support right away"
		command = { type = relation which = GEO value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -75 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 65904 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 65905 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 65906 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "No! For Georgia!"
		command = { type = relation which = GEO value = 25 }
		command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -125 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 65907 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = 65904
	trigger = { 
		event = 65908
		AND = {
			war = { country = RUS country = GEO }
		}
	}
	random = yes
	country = USA
	name = "Aid to Georgia"
	desc = "More secret aid has been sent to Georgia"
	style = 5
	date = { day = 15 year = 1991 }
	deathdate = { day = 15 year = 2050 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = treasury value = -150 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 65918 }
	}
}


event = {
	id = 65905
	trigger = { 
		event = 65908
		AND = {
			war = { country = RUS country = GEO }
		}
	}
	random = yes
	country = USA
	name = "Aid to Georgia"
	desc = "More secret aid has been sent to Georgia"
	style = 5
	date = { day = 15 year = 1991 }
	deathdate = { day = 15 year = 2050 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = treasury value = -150 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 65919 }
	}
}


event = {
	id = 65906
	trigger = { 
		event = 65908
		AND = {
			war = { country = RUS country = GEO }
		}
	}
	random = yes
	country = USA
	name = "Aid to Georgia"
	desc = "More secret aid has been sent to Georgia"
	style = 5
	date = { day = 15 year = 1991 }
	deathdate = { day = 15 year = 2050 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = treasury value = -150 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 65920 }
	}
}


event = {
	id = 65907
	random = no
	country = RUS
	name = "USA refuse to stop send aid"
	desc = "The treachourus americans wont stop sending aid to Georgia!"
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "They will pay!"
		command = { type = casusbelli which = USA value = 36 }
	}
}


event = {
	id = 65908
	random = no
	country = USA
	name = "Not needed"
	desc = "Not needed"
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "ok!"
	}
}

event = {
	id = 65909
	random = no
	country = USA
	name = "Not needed"
	desc = "Not needed"
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "ok!"
	}
}

event = {
	id = 65910
	trigger = { 
		event = 65909
		AND = {
			war = { country = RUS country = GEO }
		}
	}
	random = yes
	country = USA
	name = "Aid to Georgia"
	desc = "More aid has been sent to Georgia"
	style = 5
	date = { day = 15 year = 1991 }
	deathdate = { day = 15 year = 2050 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = treasury value = -250 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 65914 }
	}
}


event = {
	id = 65911
	trigger = { 
		event = 65909
		AND = {
			war = { country = RUS country = GEO }
		}
	}
	random = yes
	country = USA
	name = "Aid to Georgia"
	desc = "More aid has been sent to Georgia"
	style = 5
	date = { day = 15 year = 1991 }
	deathdate = { day = 15 year = 2050 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = treasury value = -250 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 65915 }
	}
}


event = {
	id = 65912
	trigger = { 
		event = 65909
		AND = {
			war = { country = RUS country = GEO }
		}
	}
	random = yes
	country = USA
	name = "Aid to Georgia"
	desc = "More aid has been sent to Georgia"
	style = 5
	date = { day = 15 year = 1991 }
	deathdate = { day = 15 year = 2050 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = treasury value = -250 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 65916 }
	}
}


event = {
	id = 65913
	random = no
	country = GEO
	name = "American aid has arrived."
	desc = "The americans has startedd send aid as they promised."
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = land value = 800 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 200 }
		command = { type = inf which = -2 value = 8000 }
		command = { type = fortress which = -2 value = 1 } # Not sure about this one.
 	}
}

event = {
	id = 65914
	random = no
	country = GEO
	name = "American aid has arrived."
	desc = "More of the promised aid has arrived."
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = land value = 600 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
		command = { type = inf which = -2 value = 4000 }
 	}
}

event = {
	id = 65915
	random = no
	country = GEO
	name = "American aid has arrived."
	desc = "More of the promised aid has arrived."
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = land value = 600 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
		command = { type = inf which = -2 value = 4000 }
 	}
}

event = {
	id = 65916
	random = no
	country = GEO
	name = "American aid has arrived."
	desc = "More of the promised aid has arrived."
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = land value = 600 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
		command = { type = inf which = -2 value = 4000 }
 	}
}



event = {
	id = 65917
	random = no
	country = GEO
	name = "The secret american aid has arrived"
	desc = "With a lot of work we managed to get some aid to us without the russian knowledge."
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = land value = 500 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 80 }
 	}
}

event = {
	id = 65918
	random = no
	country = GEO
	name = "The secret american aid has arrived"
	desc = "With a lot of work we managed to get some aid to us without the russian knowledge."
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = land value = 300 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
 	}
}

event = {
	id = 65919
	random = no
	country = GEO
	name = "The secret american aid has arrived"
	desc = "With a lot of work we managed to get some aid to us without the russian knowledge."
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = land value = 300 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
 	}
}

event = {
	id = 65920
	random = no
	country = GEO
	name = "The secret american aid has arrived"
	desc = "With a lot of work we managed to get some aid to us without the russian knowledge."
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok!"
		command = { type = land value = 300 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
 	}
}

event = {
	id = 65921
	random = no
	country = GEO
	name = "USA has declared war on Russia."
	desc = "Because of the russian agression against us USA has declared war. Now they want us to join there alliance to let us fight together."
	style = 5
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok, Kill the russians!!!"
		command = { type = alliance which = USA }
		command = { type = relation which = USA value = 100 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Never! Georgia can face this alone!"
		command = { type = relation which = USA value = -50 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = 65922
	trigger = { 
		event = 65900
		AND = {
			war = { country = GEO country = RUS }
			war = { country = USA country = RUS }
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = USA
	name = "Alliance with Georgia"
	desc = "We and Georgia is now in war against Russia. Will we propose a full alliance with Georgia to together destroy the russian threat?"
	style = 5
	date = { day = 25 year = 1991 }
	deathdate = { day = 25 year = 2050 }
	action_a = {
		name = "Ok"
		command = { type = trigger which = 65921 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "No we can do this alone!"
	}
}
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I have thoughts about creating this for other possible wars. Anything you dont like or want you more of this?
 
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Re: NATO, not an alliance?

Originally posted by Gathenhielm

That was all then, I hope. I know that this require a lot of events, but I think I can do it. What do you think?
How will you get the other countries to join the war? (unless you plan events for all countries vs. all possible opponents :eek: )
 
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That was what I thought too...;)

But doesn't it just make sense that a country doesn't have to join NATO in an aggressive war? It's not sure that every country will join the war...


But, If you wanna make a couple of thousand events, I won't stop you from it...;)
 

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Re: Re: NATO, not an alliance?

Originally posted by Havard
How will you get the other countries to join the war? (unless you plan events for all countries vs. all possible opponents :eek: )
If you join alliance, dont you join the war then?

Nice to see that someone is watching us.
 

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Originally posted by Mormegil


But doesn't it just make sense that a country doesn't have to join NATO in an aggressive war? It's not sure that every country will join the war...


I thought like this. If we make NATO alliance everyone is going to be forced to join the war, aggresively, if not they are out. This usually leads to those who have left create their own alliance and then hell break lose in europe.

I we not make NATO in to alliance, all the other country is goin to join there own alliances. Not good cause then they all are going to declare war at each other even if in NATO.

Nothing of this is good. I would like to give the opputunity to support factions without risking open war. I have tested this with USA supporting Georgia if Russia invades. This happens a lot of time and I thought maybe if USA gives support Georgia can defend it self better. It worked quite good, but it is a lot of events and do this to every possible country invading every possible nation is a lot of events. So I did this NATO smash up.

Here is the events btw:
(check the first page)
 
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Re: Re: Re: NATO, not an alliance?

Originally posted by Gathenhielm
If you join alliance, dont you join the war then?

Nice to see that someone is watching us.
Only countries without an alliance or the alliance leader may invite other countries into an alliance. An example:

1. France, Germany and the Netherlands are allied, with Germany as the alliance leader. If France is attacked they may call upon their allies Germany and the Netherlands. But how can they get the other NATO countries to join? They can't join France's alliance through a French event since Germany is the alliance leader...

2. There is no way to he this event trigger for a defensive war only, so if France attacks Belgium, a fellow NATO member, how would that be handled?

The idea was good, but the game doesn't have what you need to get it to work... :(
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: NATO, not an alliance?

Originally posted by Havard
Only countries without an alliance or the alliance leader may invite other countries into an alliance. An example:

1. France, Germany and the Netherlands are allied, with Germany as the alliance leader. If France is attacked they may call upon their allies Germany and the Netherlands. But how can they get the other NATO countries to join? They can't join France's alliance through a French event since Germany is the alliance leader...

2. There is no way to he this event trigger for a defensive war only, so if France attacks Belgium, a fellow NATO member, how would that be handled?

The idea was good, but the game doesn't have what you need to get it to work... :(
Damn. Can you change name of the thread to intervene events or something, so I can propose my Georgia, Russia war instead.