Lee as president... intriguing. Those who know war, don't want to start wars. But shall he have to make an pre-emptive strike?
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Enewald: Things probably won't be as devastatingly exciting as all that
GhostWriter: Thanks for reading; I hope my election coverage and overarching national coverage doesn't prove to be too much.
And a brief blurb on 1866 has been added above 1867, since I skipped right over it. I now have to separate files, one for notes, and one for the story to prevent that sort of thing from happening again.
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1867 Electoral Guide:
Whig Ticket
Governor and General Robert E. Lee (W-Va)
Governor Thomas Caute Reynolds (W-KY)
Democratic Ticket
Vice President Alexander Stephens (D-Ga)
Governor John W. Stevenson (D-MO)
Socialist Ticket:
Governor Arthur I. Boreman (S-WV)
Governor Nimrod Smith (S-Se)
A Brief European Interlude
While North America was settling in for a few decades of peace, Europe was facing warfare and great changes. Not long after the Civil War ended, the leaders of Denmark, Sweden, and Norway met to come up with a response to recent power plays by Prussia. When Prussia and Denmark looked on the verge of war, decisions was made. The three nations would form one country, Scandinavia, thereby creating a large independent power in the region to keep Prussia in check.
In retrospect, this move may have been a bit hasty, and completely unnecessary. Not long after this move, Prussia and its German state allies was at war with Austria and its German state allies, over dominance in the region; in 1867. It would be a grueling three years of war with Austria and Germany slowly destroying the others allies. However, it became clear by 68 that Austria had gained the upper hand. That year saw Austria making tremendous gains in Eastern Prussia, while Prussian forces were making a slow march through Bavaria. In 1869, Austria had seized Berlin and that was the end of the war. Austria proved itself the dominant Germanic power, with Prussia the lesser partner. For the next few decades Prussia would focus only on African expansion, keeping out of European affairs, for fear of angering Austria.
1868 – A Quiet Bordering on Silence, if Not for an Election
1868 would see two Presidential elections, one in Canada and one in the United States. Dalton McCarthy’s Radical Liberals would sweep the Parliament. McCarthy was installed as a Presidential Dictatorship and all other parties were shut out of the system. Both President Hamlin and newly inaugurated President Lee protested the results of the elections; but Britain supported McCarthy’s government. Lee, wanting to stay in Britain’s graces ended his objections; Hamlin continued his protests, while making it clear there would be no intervention.
Canadian President Dalton McCarthy
This year would begin an era of good feelings for the Confederacy that would last until Lee’s death in 1870. With Lee at the helm, the new nation felt hope for their future. Lee’s administration wanted to continue the policies passed by the Whigs in the past few years. President Lee’s number one priority, however, was universal suffrage for all white men. Lee felt that any person, who had been able to fight in the War of Secession, should be able to participate in its government. Many aristocrats who were used to power in the South were uncomfortable with this policy, but were unwilling to show their disagreement with Lee in public. So by the end of the year, the Constitution would be amended to allow every male citizen of the Confederacy would be allowed to vote. Not specifying “white” males would cause a problem when manumission finally came around in the 80’s.
The Democrats would hold their convention in April, in Annapolis, Maryland. It was clear on the first day that the Democrats were split down the middle without any clear plan on what to do next. Half the Party wanted to make a hard-line with the Confederacy, like the Union Party; these delegates backed Governor Joel Parker of New Jersey. The other half wanted to let bygones be bygones and develop closer ties with the Confederacy; these delegates backed Congressman Daniel W. Voorhees from Indiana . After many ballots, the Democrats decided that the only way they were going to win in November would be to model themselves similarly to the Union Party, and Parker got the nomination for President. To mollify the Copperheads, Daniel W. Voorhees was picked for Vice President. The message would be normalization with the Confederacy, with a stern line if necessary.
Democratic Ticket
Governor Joel Parker (D-NJ)
Congressman Daniel W. Voorhees (D-IN)
The Union Convention in June was the example of order. Their convention was held in Augusta, Maine. On the first ballot, Hannibal Hamlin and George Meade were re-nominated. The message going into the fall was to keep calm with the current administration. Nothing had gone wrong, and the United States was refusing to back down.
President Hannibal Hamlin
Vice President George Meade
The Socialists would once again hold their convention in Chicago, Illinois in July. The convention was larger than last year, what with the Socialists being on the ballot in every state now. Noticeably, most of the delegates were former Radical Republicans that had left with Lincoln. Lincoln’s former campaign manager and sitting Senator from Illinois, David Davis was selected for President; after Lincoln had written a letter mentioning him as good nominee and sent it to national newspapers. For Vice President, Senator Zachariah Chandler from Michigan was selected.
Senator David Davis
Senator Zachariah Chandler
The election was all but a foregone conclusion. The Union incumbents coasted on their accomplishments, while Democrats pointed out every flaw in the administration. The Socialists mostly pointed out the flaws with everyone, promising regulations on business and redistribution of wealth. Hamlin got another huge majority in Congress, similar to the previous midterm election returns. The new state of Nebraska brought in 1 Nationalist and 1 Socialists Senator and 1 Congressman from each party, sans the Union Party. The Democrats did make some gains in the electoral college, grabbing Voorhees' home state.
Davis/Chandler: 16 - 217,186 – 6%
Hamlin/Meade: 169 – 1,846,085 – 51%
Parker/Voorhees: 30 - 1,520,305 – 42%
Other: 0 – 36,200 - 1%
Total: 3,619,776
Total in Congress: 215
Senate: 48
Democrats: 8 (+0) 17.69%
Union: 34 (+0) 71.35%
Socialists: 3 (+1) 5.48%
Nationalist:3 (+1) 5.48%
House: 167
Democrats: 29 (+2) 17.69%
Union: 120 ( -3) 71.35%
Socialists: 9 (+1) 5.48%
Nationalist: 9 (+1) 5.48%
The Union Party domination in the United States would continue through another election.
GhostWriter: Thanks for reading; I hope my election coverage and overarching national coverage doesn't prove to be too much.
And a brief blurb on 1866 has been added above 1867, since I skipped right over it. I now have to separate files, one for notes, and one for the story to prevent that sort of thing from happening again.
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1867 Electoral Guide:
Whig Ticket
Governor and General Robert E. Lee (W-Va)
Governor Thomas Caute Reynolds (W-KY)
Democratic Ticket
Vice President Alexander Stephens (D-Ga)
Governor John W. Stevenson (D-MO)
Socialist Ticket:
Governor Arthur I. Boreman (S-WV)
Governor Nimrod Smith (S-Se)
A Brief European Interlude
While North America was settling in for a few decades of peace, Europe was facing warfare and great changes. Not long after the Civil War ended, the leaders of Denmark, Sweden, and Norway met to come up with a response to recent power plays by Prussia. When Prussia and Denmark looked on the verge of war, decisions was made. The three nations would form one country, Scandinavia, thereby creating a large independent power in the region to keep Prussia in check.
In retrospect, this move may have been a bit hasty, and completely unnecessary. Not long after this move, Prussia and its German state allies was at war with Austria and its German state allies, over dominance in the region; in 1867. It would be a grueling three years of war with Austria and Germany slowly destroying the others allies. However, it became clear by 68 that Austria had gained the upper hand. That year saw Austria making tremendous gains in Eastern Prussia, while Prussian forces were making a slow march through Bavaria. In 1869, Austria had seized Berlin and that was the end of the war. Austria proved itself the dominant Germanic power, with Prussia the lesser partner. For the next few decades Prussia would focus only on African expansion, keeping out of European affairs, for fear of angering Austria.
1868 – A Quiet Bordering on Silence, if Not for an Election
1868 would see two Presidential elections, one in Canada and one in the United States. Dalton McCarthy’s Radical Liberals would sweep the Parliament. McCarthy was installed as a Presidential Dictatorship and all other parties were shut out of the system. Both President Hamlin and newly inaugurated President Lee protested the results of the elections; but Britain supported McCarthy’s government. Lee, wanting to stay in Britain’s graces ended his objections; Hamlin continued his protests, while making it clear there would be no intervention.
Canadian President Dalton McCarthy
This year would begin an era of good feelings for the Confederacy that would last until Lee’s death in 1870. With Lee at the helm, the new nation felt hope for their future. Lee’s administration wanted to continue the policies passed by the Whigs in the past few years. President Lee’s number one priority, however, was universal suffrage for all white men. Lee felt that any person, who had been able to fight in the War of Secession, should be able to participate in its government. Many aristocrats who were used to power in the South were uncomfortable with this policy, but were unwilling to show their disagreement with Lee in public. So by the end of the year, the Constitution would be amended to allow every male citizen of the Confederacy would be allowed to vote. Not specifying “white” males would cause a problem when manumission finally came around in the 80’s.
The Democrats would hold their convention in April, in Annapolis, Maryland. It was clear on the first day that the Democrats were split down the middle without any clear plan on what to do next. Half the Party wanted to make a hard-line with the Confederacy, like the Union Party; these delegates backed Governor Joel Parker of New Jersey. The other half wanted to let bygones be bygones and develop closer ties with the Confederacy; these delegates backed Congressman Daniel W. Voorhees from Indiana . After many ballots, the Democrats decided that the only way they were going to win in November would be to model themselves similarly to the Union Party, and Parker got the nomination for President. To mollify the Copperheads, Daniel W. Voorhees was picked for Vice President. The message would be normalization with the Confederacy, with a stern line if necessary.
Democratic Ticket
Governor Joel Parker (D-NJ)
Congressman Daniel W. Voorhees (D-IN)
The Union Convention in June was the example of order. Their convention was held in Augusta, Maine. On the first ballot, Hannibal Hamlin and George Meade were re-nominated. The message going into the fall was to keep calm with the current administration. Nothing had gone wrong, and the United States was refusing to back down.
President Hannibal Hamlin
Vice President George Meade
The Socialists would once again hold their convention in Chicago, Illinois in July. The convention was larger than last year, what with the Socialists being on the ballot in every state now. Noticeably, most of the delegates were former Radical Republicans that had left with Lincoln. Lincoln’s former campaign manager and sitting Senator from Illinois, David Davis was selected for President; after Lincoln had written a letter mentioning him as good nominee and sent it to national newspapers. For Vice President, Senator Zachariah Chandler from Michigan was selected.
Senator David Davis
Senator Zachariah Chandler
The election was all but a foregone conclusion. The Union incumbents coasted on their accomplishments, while Democrats pointed out every flaw in the administration. The Socialists mostly pointed out the flaws with everyone, promising regulations on business and redistribution of wealth. Hamlin got another huge majority in Congress, similar to the previous midterm election returns. The new state of Nebraska brought in 1 Nationalist and 1 Socialists Senator and 1 Congressman from each party, sans the Union Party. The Democrats did make some gains in the electoral college, grabbing Voorhees' home state.
Davis/Chandler: 16 - 217,186 – 6%
Hamlin/Meade: 169 – 1,846,085 – 51%
Parker/Voorhees: 30 - 1,520,305 – 42%
Other: 0 – 36,200 - 1%
Total: 3,619,776
Total in Congress: 215
Senate: 48
Democrats: 8 (+0) 17.69%
Union: 34 (+0) 71.35%
Socialists: 3 (+1) 5.48%
Nationalist:3 (+1) 5.48%
House: 167
Democrats: 29 (+2) 17.69%
Union: 120 ( -3) 71.35%
Socialists: 9 (+1) 5.48%
Nationalist: 9 (+1) 5.48%
The Union Party domination in the United States would continue through another election.
The Union party literally rules unopposed.
I wonder when shall the other parties 'disappear'.
I wonder when shall the other parties 'disappear'.
jpj1421: ...A Brief European Interlude .. Austria proved itself the dominant Germanic power, with Prussia the lesser partner...
awesome ! ! however, Prussia would habe been a stronger opponent down the road ! !
jpj1421: ...The Union Party domination in the United States would continue through another election.
excellent ! !
splendid update ! !
awesome ! !
however, Prussia would habe been a stronger opponent down the road ! ! jpj1421: ...The Union Party domination in the United States would continue through another election.
excellent ! !
splendid update ! !
Enewald: The Politics only get worse in the 80's, but by the time of Teddy Roosevelt, I imagine things will simplify.
GhostWriter: Things will come of Prussia's strength...and my boredome...in the late 90's
Anyway, here is the long delayed update, the delay has been due to my girlfriend, work, Harry Potter and http://usgovsim.net/USG/ Perhaps I'll be able to get more updates now that I've finished re-reading Harry Potter.
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The Seventies: The Beginnings of the Industrial Revolution and Laying the Groundwork for Future Conflicts
As the sixties drew to a close, Robert E. Lee was continually working to keep the newly born Confederacy going. He continued building the fortifications that were to keep the United States out. Lee continued to reach out to key European powers and in the winter of 1868, The Confederacy and Russia signed a five year treaty. In the spring of 1870, Lee would score the most highly prized treaty, and make Britain an ally, for five years. Lee’s actions were probably necessary in that the technological and numerical advantage of the United States was only increasing while the Confederacy was lagging. Despite Lee’s insistence upon keeping up with the United States, aristocrats and land owners were unwilling to join in the Revolution; so only a handful of Capitalists built factories around the country. To this day, the Confederacy has still been unable to overcome the head start of the rest of the western world.
1870 would be the year many historians point to as the year were the first domino fell; knocking down more and more, causing many of the conflicts of the next century. It would begin innocuously enough. President Lee looked to the South, and to the sugar in Cuba, and he wanted to make it a new state in the Confederacy. In January, Secretary of State Albert Johnston, the architect of the Missouri campaign, was sent to Spain to talk with King Leopold about purchasing Cuba. On a January 26th, a treaty was presented, offering a large amount of money in exchange. Secretary Johnston argued that Cuba wanted to separate from Spain and that the Confederacy would look out for them. King Leopold flatly refused, insisting that Cuba was a part of Spain and no amount of money would do. Johnston was sent home the next day.
This would cause two things to happen. Firstly, France would put more influence on Spain to bring them under their wing; they thought Spain had rejected Johnston’s offer to snub their nose at France. Napoleon III had been somewhat concerned when Leopold was named King; he was a distant cousin of Bismarck after all. However, with Prussia being in a weakened state, very little resistance was put up to Leopold’s ascendency. The disagreement over Cuba, brought French wrath on Spain, and Spain would gradually become closer to France.
Secondly, when Johnston returned home, Lee asked him for his opinion on what should be next. Johnston believed that covert action should be taken to give guns and supplies for a small amount of money to Cuban separatists; this way they could claim say it’s a legal trade if caught. Lee was uncertain at first, unwilling to provoke a fight so soon after their Revolution. Lee wouldn’t give the go ahead and present this idea to Speaker Longstreet and PPT JEB Stuart for authorization until March 30th, the day after Johnston died. Longstreet and Stuart agreed that since they were going to be trading weapons and food for money that makes it perfectly acceptable to follow through on. Never mind that they were going to be asking for very little money, so the Cubans could fight, there was that layer of protection. The plan would go into motion the following month, and between April and October thousands of guns, and enough food to feed an army were shipped into Cuba.
On September 28th, President Lee had a stroke that left him unable to speak; he would communicate by pen for the remainder of his life. On October 6th, the Virginius, a Confederate trading ship, was stopped outside of Cuba by Spanish ships and boarded. Guns were found underneath the crates of food. The Spanish, executed 54 of the crewman and seized the ship. Six men were able to return to the Confederacy. Lee was furious that the Spanish would take matters into their own hands. On October 7th, he sent a telegram to the Spanish demanding an apology and indemnities equivalent to the amount offered for the purchase of Cuba. On October 8th, King Leopold relented at French insistence, and sent the formal apology to Lee. Robert E Lee was seen as a hero once again by the people of the Confederacy.
On October 9th, Lee did an interesting thing; he sent a letter to Congress. His letter indicted that he did not believe he had much time left, and wanted to give his thoughts on how the Confederacy should continue. Lee expressed his belief in the Confederacy’s right to Cuba. He called for the continued strength of the Confederacy by maintaining the defensive border with the United States. Also, ties should be kept strong with Britain, France and Russia. To do that, Lee says, the Confederacy should abolish slavery, to remove the only barrier in their friendship with the European powers. This last part was met with much disbelief by many in the Confederacy; many believed that Lee had gone mad after his stroke. However, many were unwilling to openly question Lee’s judgment, but more than a few in Congress were willing to sit on their hands until Lee was out of office. Then, on October 12th, President Lee died, much to the sadness of the Confederacy. On October 13th, Congressman Albert Goodwyn, a Whig from Alabama put the Emancipation bill before the House.
Around this time, President Hamlin announced his support for King Leopold’s actions in regards to Spain, however he was unwilling to actually do anything to keep Cuba as part of Spain. Hamlin also expressed personal concern over the Emancipation bill in the Confederacy, because its passage would knock away the one chip the United States has been able to use in diplomacy. In public, he expressed doubts that the Confederacy would actually be able to join the “civilized” world.
On October 12th, 1870, Vice President Thomas Reynolds became President of the United States, much to the horror of the Whigs. Many saw this as a repeat of the Tippecanoe and Tyler Too fiasco. Reynolds was a Whig in name only, who was very opposed to social reforms, and thought Emancipation was a fool’s errand. His short term is not remembered fondly by the Confederacy. His cause was not helped when the Confederacy’s small industrial sector crashed in April of 1871 causing unemployment and inflation. Longstreet and Stuart both pushed for help for those out of a job which Reynolds vetoed. Reynolds was certain the government shouldn’t intervene. Many speculate that Reynolds’ insistence on maintaining a hands off approach is why Congress passed the Emancipation Act, so that the decision would fall on Reynolds’s head. So, on December 8th, the Emancipation Act made it through the Senate and was sent to Reynolds’ desk. He vetoed it immediately. Many in the South and the Union Party in the North, breathed a sigh of relief. Reynolds would end up paying for his decision. Scipio, one of Reynolds slaves would get his hands on a pistol and shoot Reynolds to death on January 1st, 1972. Scipio was lynched in front of the Gray House. The PPT, James (JEB) Stuart would ascend to the Presidency.
President James Elwell Brown (JEB) Stuart
Congressional Elections
1869 Confederate Election:
House – 84
Whigs – 50 (-12) 60%
Democrats - 29 (+8) 35%
Socialists – 5 (+4) 5%
Senate – 32
Whigs – 19 (-4) 60%
Democrats - 11 (+3) 35%
Socialists – 2 (+2) 5%
1870 USA Elections:
Total in Congress: 215
Senate: 48
Democrats: 7 (-1) 14%
Union: 33 (-1) 70%
Socialists: 5 (+1) 10%
Nationalist: 2 (-1) 5%
Communist : 1 (+1) – 2%
House: 167
Democrats: 29 (+0) 17%
Union: 116 ( -5) 70%
Socialists: 13 (+4) 8%
Nationalist: 8 (-1) 5%
Communist: 1 (+1) 1%
1871 Confederate Elections:
House – 84
Whigs – 50 (+0) 60%
Democrats - 26 (-3) 32%
Socialists – 8 (+3) 10%
Senate – 32
Whigs – 19 (+0) 60%
Democrats - 10 (-1) 30%
Socialists – 3(+1) 10%
GhostWriter: Things will come of Prussia's strength...and my boredome...in the late 90's
Anyway, here is the long delayed update, the delay has been due to my girlfriend, work, Harry Potter and http://usgovsim.net/USG/ Perhaps I'll be able to get more updates now that I've finished re-reading Harry Potter.
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The Seventies: The Beginnings of the Industrial Revolution and Laying the Groundwork for Future Conflicts
As the sixties drew to a close, Robert E. Lee was continually working to keep the newly born Confederacy going. He continued building the fortifications that were to keep the United States out. Lee continued to reach out to key European powers and in the winter of 1868, The Confederacy and Russia signed a five year treaty. In the spring of 1870, Lee would score the most highly prized treaty, and make Britain an ally, for five years. Lee’s actions were probably necessary in that the technological and numerical advantage of the United States was only increasing while the Confederacy was lagging. Despite Lee’s insistence upon keeping up with the United States, aristocrats and land owners were unwilling to join in the Revolution; so only a handful of Capitalists built factories around the country. To this day, the Confederacy has still been unable to overcome the head start of the rest of the western world.
1870 would be the year many historians point to as the year were the first domino fell; knocking down more and more, causing many of the conflicts of the next century. It would begin innocuously enough. President Lee looked to the South, and to the sugar in Cuba, and he wanted to make it a new state in the Confederacy. In January, Secretary of State Albert Johnston, the architect of the Missouri campaign, was sent to Spain to talk with King Leopold about purchasing Cuba. On a January 26th, a treaty was presented, offering a large amount of money in exchange. Secretary Johnston argued that Cuba wanted to separate from Spain and that the Confederacy would look out for them. King Leopold flatly refused, insisting that Cuba was a part of Spain and no amount of money would do. Johnston was sent home the next day.
This would cause two things to happen. Firstly, France would put more influence on Spain to bring them under their wing; they thought Spain had rejected Johnston’s offer to snub their nose at France. Napoleon III had been somewhat concerned when Leopold was named King; he was a distant cousin of Bismarck after all. However, with Prussia being in a weakened state, very little resistance was put up to Leopold’s ascendency. The disagreement over Cuba, brought French wrath on Spain, and Spain would gradually become closer to France.
Secondly, when Johnston returned home, Lee asked him for his opinion on what should be next. Johnston believed that covert action should be taken to give guns and supplies for a small amount of money to Cuban separatists; this way they could claim say it’s a legal trade if caught. Lee was uncertain at first, unwilling to provoke a fight so soon after their Revolution. Lee wouldn’t give the go ahead and present this idea to Speaker Longstreet and PPT JEB Stuart for authorization until March 30th, the day after Johnston died. Longstreet and Stuart agreed that since they were going to be trading weapons and food for money that makes it perfectly acceptable to follow through on. Never mind that they were going to be asking for very little money, so the Cubans could fight, there was that layer of protection. The plan would go into motion the following month, and between April and October thousands of guns, and enough food to feed an army were shipped into Cuba.
On September 28th, President Lee had a stroke that left him unable to speak; he would communicate by pen for the remainder of his life. On October 6th, the Virginius, a Confederate trading ship, was stopped outside of Cuba by Spanish ships and boarded. Guns were found underneath the crates of food. The Spanish, executed 54 of the crewman and seized the ship. Six men were able to return to the Confederacy. Lee was furious that the Spanish would take matters into their own hands. On October 7th, he sent a telegram to the Spanish demanding an apology and indemnities equivalent to the amount offered for the purchase of Cuba. On October 8th, King Leopold relented at French insistence, and sent the formal apology to Lee. Robert E Lee was seen as a hero once again by the people of the Confederacy.
On October 9th, Lee did an interesting thing; he sent a letter to Congress. His letter indicted that he did not believe he had much time left, and wanted to give his thoughts on how the Confederacy should continue. Lee expressed his belief in the Confederacy’s right to Cuba. He called for the continued strength of the Confederacy by maintaining the defensive border with the United States. Also, ties should be kept strong with Britain, France and Russia. To do that, Lee says, the Confederacy should abolish slavery, to remove the only barrier in their friendship with the European powers. This last part was met with much disbelief by many in the Confederacy; many believed that Lee had gone mad after his stroke. However, many were unwilling to openly question Lee’s judgment, but more than a few in Congress were willing to sit on their hands until Lee was out of office. Then, on October 12th, President Lee died, much to the sadness of the Confederacy. On October 13th, Congressman Albert Goodwyn, a Whig from Alabama put the Emancipation bill before the House.
Around this time, President Hamlin announced his support for King Leopold’s actions in regards to Spain, however he was unwilling to actually do anything to keep Cuba as part of Spain. Hamlin also expressed personal concern over the Emancipation bill in the Confederacy, because its passage would knock away the one chip the United States has been able to use in diplomacy. In public, he expressed doubts that the Confederacy would actually be able to join the “civilized” world.
On October 12th, 1870, Vice President Thomas Reynolds became President of the United States, much to the horror of the Whigs. Many saw this as a repeat of the Tippecanoe and Tyler Too fiasco. Reynolds was a Whig in name only, who was very opposed to social reforms, and thought Emancipation was a fool’s errand. His short term is not remembered fondly by the Confederacy. His cause was not helped when the Confederacy’s small industrial sector crashed in April of 1871 causing unemployment and inflation. Longstreet and Stuart both pushed for help for those out of a job which Reynolds vetoed. Reynolds was certain the government shouldn’t intervene. Many speculate that Reynolds’ insistence on maintaining a hands off approach is why Congress passed the Emancipation Act, so that the decision would fall on Reynolds’s head. So, on December 8th, the Emancipation Act made it through the Senate and was sent to Reynolds’ desk. He vetoed it immediately. Many in the South and the Union Party in the North, breathed a sigh of relief. Reynolds would end up paying for his decision. Scipio, one of Reynolds slaves would get his hands on a pistol and shoot Reynolds to death on January 1st, 1972. Scipio was lynched in front of the Gray House. The PPT, James (JEB) Stuart would ascend to the Presidency.
President James Elwell Brown (JEB) Stuart
Congressional Elections
1869 Confederate Election:
House – 84
Whigs – 50 (-12) 60%
Democrats - 29 (+8) 35%
Socialists – 5 (+4) 5%
Senate – 32
Whigs – 19 (-4) 60%
Democrats - 11 (+3) 35%
Socialists – 2 (+2) 5%
1870 USA Elections:
Total in Congress: 215
Senate: 48
Democrats: 7 (-1) 14%
Union: 33 (-1) 70%
Socialists: 5 (+1) 10%
Nationalist: 2 (-1) 5%
Communist : 1 (+1) – 2%
House: 167
Democrats: 29 (+0) 17%
Union: 116 ( -5) 70%
Socialists: 13 (+4) 8%
Nationalist: 8 (-1) 5%
Communist: 1 (+1) 1%
1871 Confederate Elections:
House – 84
Whigs – 50 (+0) 60%
Democrats - 26 (-3) 32%
Socialists – 8 (+3) 10%
Senate – 32
Whigs – 19 (+0) 60%
Democrats - 10 (-1) 30%
Socialists – 3(+1) 10%
An excellent showing of politics in the Confederate States of America as well as the United States, great work!
I say that go and conquer Cuba.
External problems lessen interal problems, possibly raising the national unity.
Remember ACA!
External problems lessen interal problems, possibly raising the national unity.
Remember ACA!
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volksmarschall - Thanks, I find that when I try to look at the countries as a whole, I end up gravitating towards the politics.
Enewald - Well, maybe such things will come to pass...eventually...like when the appropriate event triggers. I am at heart a passive player, heh.
I should have the 1873 election up tonight after dinner, heh.
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The Ascendency of the War of Secession Veterans
America in 1872
Europe in 1872
1872 and 1873 were elections years in the USA and CSA, and after the sudden deaths of two American Presidents, even if they were both Confederates; left both countries thoughtful. The next administration would need to be one that could keep the country secure for the immediate future. This concern was compounded when the Confederate Socialist Party invited Karl Marx to speak in Virginia. He managed to give three speeches before being made to leave by the Confederate government. In his wake, worker’s and slaves rioted in the streets, causing many businesses to be damaged or completely destroyed. The United States Socialist Party had also extended an invitation, but at President Hamlin’s insistence, Marx was not allowed to enter the country. An issue in the election would be the alleged danger of “The Reds” taking over. Ironically enough each government was hoping that the Socialists would take over in the other, assured that a Socialists government would result in eventual chaos.
And so the election season began in the United States. The Socialists would hold their conventions in March, the Democrats in April, and the Unionist in May. On the Socialist side,
Daniel Davis was the first choice for the nomination, but he declined the offer to run again. In his place, the Socialists nominated Senator and former Vice Presidential nominee Zachariah Chandler for President, and they nominated Senator Richard Yates from Illinois to be Vice President. Yates was remembered fondly for his time as Governor during the War of Secession; during his term, Illinois sent more troops to help the Union than any other state. The main goal of the Socialists was to stem the bleeding after the Marx riots, and continue to build up their party in the eyes of the country.
Senator Zachariah Chandler (S-Mi)
Senator Richard Yates (S-Il)
The Democrats wanted a win, and they were finally willing to do just about anything to win. They decided that if they were going to win, they needed to win the largest state, the one with the most electoral votes, New York. With Illinois firmly in Socialist hands, the Democrats were hoping that with such large states out of play for the Unionists, they could force the election to be decided in Congress, where they believed they stood a better shot, or maybe even win outright. So, the Democrats picked the very popular Horatio Seymour, Governor of New York to head their ticket. It was over the Vice Presidency that a floor fight arose over. The War Democrats and Copperheads each had their own candidates in mind. The Copperheads wanted to bring Daniel W. Voorhees back for another round. The War Democrats wanted to select Congressman Ulysses S. Grant who served under Meade at Allentown. After a couple of ballots, the little known Senator James English was selected to be the Vice Presidential nominee.
Governor Horatio Seymour (D-NY)
Senator James English (D-CT)
Outgoing President Hamlin wanted his Vice President George Meade to be the next President, and the Union Party was only happy to oblige. Meade had handed the Confederacy its few defeats in the War of Secession. He won easily on the first ballot. Meade wanted his friend James Garfield, the Speaker of the House, to be his Vice President. Once again, the Unionists were happy to oblige, believing that a young, good looking war hero would look good next to the aging Meade.
Vice President Meade (U-Pa)
Speaker James Garfield (U-OH)
Despite the efforts of the Democrats and the Socialists to split the Electoral College and sink the Unionists, Meade soured to victory. The people had been content with the previous administration and were looking forward to having a General of their own in the White House. And with the Confederate alliance with France expiring in September, many secretly hoped that Meade would declare war on the Confederacy; with Lee dead, victory had to be certain, right? And so Election Day came, and after the votes were counted, Meade was the victor. There was just one catch, the day after the election, Vice President Meade died from wounds received on the battlefield.
Chandler/Yates – 37 - 537, 655 - 12.19%
Meade/Garfield – 152 – 2,209,722 – 50.1%
Seymour/English – 49 - 1,619,140 – 36.7%
Other – 44,106 – 1%
Total – 4,410,623
Congress Total: 238
Senate: 46
Socialists: 6 (+1)- 12%
Union: 31(0) - 67%
Democratic: 6(-1) - 12%
Nationalist: 2 (0)- 4%
Communist: 1(0) - 2%
House: 192
Socialists: 23(+10) -12%
Union: 132 (+16) - 69%
Democratic: 23(-6) – 12%
Nationalist: 10(+2) – 5%
Communist: 4(+3) – 2%
Put in doubt was who would be the next President. Democrats and Socialists were talking openly of the electors freeing up their votes and selecting a President themselves. Union Electors quickly came out saying that their votes would be transferred to James Garfield; all they wanted was a name for Vice President. Garfield asked for his friend and House Majority Leader James G. Blaine to be Vice President. And so the 41 year-old James Garfield would become the youngest President to that point in United States history.
Congressman James G. Blaine
Enewald - Well, maybe such things will come to pass...eventually...like when the appropriate event triggers. I am at heart a passive player, heh.
I should have the 1873 election up tonight after dinner, heh.
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The Ascendency of the War of Secession Veterans
America in 1872
Europe in 1872
1872 and 1873 were elections years in the USA and CSA, and after the sudden deaths of two American Presidents, even if they were both Confederates; left both countries thoughtful. The next administration would need to be one that could keep the country secure for the immediate future. This concern was compounded when the Confederate Socialist Party invited Karl Marx to speak in Virginia. He managed to give three speeches before being made to leave by the Confederate government. In his wake, worker’s and slaves rioted in the streets, causing many businesses to be damaged or completely destroyed. The United States Socialist Party had also extended an invitation, but at President Hamlin’s insistence, Marx was not allowed to enter the country. An issue in the election would be the alleged danger of “The Reds” taking over. Ironically enough each government was hoping that the Socialists would take over in the other, assured that a Socialists government would result in eventual chaos.
And so the election season began in the United States. The Socialists would hold their conventions in March, the Democrats in April, and the Unionist in May. On the Socialist side,
Daniel Davis was the first choice for the nomination, but he declined the offer to run again. In his place, the Socialists nominated Senator and former Vice Presidential nominee Zachariah Chandler for President, and they nominated Senator Richard Yates from Illinois to be Vice President. Yates was remembered fondly for his time as Governor during the War of Secession; during his term, Illinois sent more troops to help the Union than any other state. The main goal of the Socialists was to stem the bleeding after the Marx riots, and continue to build up their party in the eyes of the country.
Senator Zachariah Chandler (S-Mi)
Senator Richard Yates (S-Il)
The Democrats wanted a win, and they were finally willing to do just about anything to win. They decided that if they were going to win, they needed to win the largest state, the one with the most electoral votes, New York. With Illinois firmly in Socialist hands, the Democrats were hoping that with such large states out of play for the Unionists, they could force the election to be decided in Congress, where they believed they stood a better shot, or maybe even win outright. So, the Democrats picked the very popular Horatio Seymour, Governor of New York to head their ticket. It was over the Vice Presidency that a floor fight arose over. The War Democrats and Copperheads each had their own candidates in mind. The Copperheads wanted to bring Daniel W. Voorhees back for another round. The War Democrats wanted to select Congressman Ulysses S. Grant who served under Meade at Allentown. After a couple of ballots, the little known Senator James English was selected to be the Vice Presidential nominee.
Governor Horatio Seymour (D-NY)
Senator James English (D-CT)
Outgoing President Hamlin wanted his Vice President George Meade to be the next President, and the Union Party was only happy to oblige. Meade had handed the Confederacy its few defeats in the War of Secession. He won easily on the first ballot. Meade wanted his friend James Garfield, the Speaker of the House, to be his Vice President. Once again, the Unionists were happy to oblige, believing that a young, good looking war hero would look good next to the aging Meade.
Vice President Meade (U-Pa)
Speaker James Garfield (U-OH)
Despite the efforts of the Democrats and the Socialists to split the Electoral College and sink the Unionists, Meade soured to victory. The people had been content with the previous administration and were looking forward to having a General of their own in the White House. And with the Confederate alliance with France expiring in September, many secretly hoped that Meade would declare war on the Confederacy; with Lee dead, victory had to be certain, right? And so Election Day came, and after the votes were counted, Meade was the victor. There was just one catch, the day after the election, Vice President Meade died from wounds received on the battlefield.
Chandler/Yates – 37 - 537, 655 - 12.19%
Meade/Garfield – 152 – 2,209,722 – 50.1%
Seymour/English – 49 - 1,619,140 – 36.7%
Other – 44,106 – 1%
Total – 4,410,623
Congress Total: 238
Senate: 46
Socialists: 6 (+1)- 12%
Union: 31(0) - 67%
Democratic: 6(-1) - 12%
Nationalist: 2 (0)- 4%
Communist: 1(0) - 2%
House: 192
Socialists: 23(+10) -12%
Union: 132 (+16) - 69%
Democratic: 23(-6) – 12%
Nationalist: 10(+2) – 5%
Communist: 4(+3) – 2%
Put in doubt was who would be the next President. Democrats and Socialists were talking openly of the electors freeing up their votes and selecting a President themselves. Union Electors quickly came out saying that their votes would be transferred to James Garfield; all they wanted was a name for Vice President. Garfield asked for his friend and House Majority Leader James G. Blaine to be Vice President. And so the 41 year-old James Garfield would become the youngest President to that point in United States history.
Congressman James G. Blaine
And the smaller Part II
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Put in doubt was who would be the next President. Democrats and Socialists were talking openly of the electors freeing up their votes and selecting a President themselves. Union Electors quickly came out saying that their votes would be transferred to James Garfield; all they wanted was a name for Vice President. Garfield asked for his friend and House Majority Leader James G. Blaine to be Vice President. And so the 41 year-old James Garfield would become the youngest President to that point in United States history.
The Confederate elections also had their complications. President Stuart was proving to be popular in the time since he ascended to office. His handling of the Marx riots was also appreciated by most of the people in his country. Stuart wanted his own term, but the Confederate Constitution was unclear on whether he’d be able to run. A Whig lawyer and Senator by the name of James L Acorn went to the Supreme Court, to get Stuart the chance to run. In a 6-3 decision, the Courts decided that the Constitution only prevents a President from running for a second term, since Stuart had not run for President; he could run for a term in his own right.
The Socialists, who met in Sequoyah, picked former Vice Presidential candidate, Governor Nimrod Smith for President. They would also select Senator Waitman Willey of West Virginia for Vice President.
Governor Nimrod Smith (S-Se)
Senator Waitman Willey(S-WV)
The Democrats ended up picking two little known and uncontroversial picks for President and Vice President. Governor John Stone of Mississippi was selected for President, and Governor Robert Lindsay of Alabama was selected for Vice President. Many speculate that the Democrats did not expect to win this election, based on these picks. I’m inclined to agree, since these two men are so obscure that I was unable to find a picture of either of them for this publication.
JEB Stuart easily secured the Whig nomination for President; the Whigs had been competent in his brief term, and they were more than comfortable with 6 more years. For Vice President, Speaker James Longstreet, and leader of the Whig Party, kindly offered his services. The Whigs would campaign as two war heroes to fill the void left behind by Lee.
President JEB Stuart(W-VA)
Speaker James Longstreet(W-Ga)
The Whigs would be victorious, but it would be closer than anticipated, with the Stuart only getting 49% of the vote. Still, the Confederacy seemed comfortable putting its faith JEB Stuart for 6 more years.
Stone/Lindsay – 35 - 888,833 – 43%
Stuart/Longstreet – 74 - 1,012,856 – 49%
Smith/Willey - 9 - 165,364 – 8%
Total: 2,067,055
Congress: 118
House: 86
Democrats: 28(+2) – 32%
Whigs: 51 (+1) - 60%
Socialists: 7(-1) – 8%
Senate: 32
Democrats: 10(+0) - 30%
Whigs : 19 (+0) - 60%
Socialists: 3(+0) – 10%
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Put in doubt was who would be the next President. Democrats and Socialists were talking openly of the electors freeing up their votes and selecting a President themselves. Union Electors quickly came out saying that their votes would be transferred to James Garfield; all they wanted was a name for Vice President. Garfield asked for his friend and House Majority Leader James G. Blaine to be Vice President. And so the 41 year-old James Garfield would become the youngest President to that point in United States history.
The Confederate elections also had their complications. President Stuart was proving to be popular in the time since he ascended to office. His handling of the Marx riots was also appreciated by most of the people in his country. Stuart wanted his own term, but the Confederate Constitution was unclear on whether he’d be able to run. A Whig lawyer and Senator by the name of James L Acorn went to the Supreme Court, to get Stuart the chance to run. In a 6-3 decision, the Courts decided that the Constitution only prevents a President from running for a second term, since Stuart had not run for President; he could run for a term in his own right.
The Socialists, who met in Sequoyah, picked former Vice Presidential candidate, Governor Nimrod Smith for President. They would also select Senator Waitman Willey of West Virginia for Vice President.
Governor Nimrod Smith (S-Se)
Senator Waitman Willey(S-WV)
The Democrats ended up picking two little known and uncontroversial picks for President and Vice President. Governor John Stone of Mississippi was selected for President, and Governor Robert Lindsay of Alabama was selected for Vice President. Many speculate that the Democrats did not expect to win this election, based on these picks. I’m inclined to agree, since these two men are so obscure that I was unable to find a picture of either of them for this publication.
JEB Stuart easily secured the Whig nomination for President; the Whigs had been competent in his brief term, and they were more than comfortable with 6 more years. For Vice President, Speaker James Longstreet, and leader of the Whig Party, kindly offered his services. The Whigs would campaign as two war heroes to fill the void left behind by Lee.
President JEB Stuart(W-VA)
Speaker James Longstreet(W-Ga)
The Whigs would be victorious, but it would be closer than anticipated, with the Stuart only getting 49% of the vote. Still, the Confederacy seemed comfortable putting its faith JEB Stuart for 6 more years.
Stone/Lindsay – 35 - 888,833 – 43%
Stuart/Longstreet – 74 - 1,012,856 – 49%
Smith/Willey - 9 - 165,364 – 8%
Total: 2,067,055
Congress: 118
House: 86
Democrats: 28(+2) – 32%
Whigs: 51 (+1) - 60%
Socialists: 7(-1) – 8%
Senate: 32
Democrats: 10(+0) - 30%
Whigs : 19 (+0) - 60%
Socialists: 3(+0) – 10%
Wonder how Lee's eyes, and Warhorse will hold up in the Southern White house?
And it would appear as if the Socialists are starting to gain some ground in the elections up North...
And it would appear as if the Socialists are starting to gain some ground in the elections up North...
So...what we've got here is a a few things adding up to keep me from finishing this AAR.
1) The story became too complicated for me to tell...the way I structured the story makes it difficult for me to do an update.
2) Growing bored with my save file...when Prussia became Germany, it went insane, sucking all the fun out of the game
3) I have a bad case of writer's block, and a fading interest in the story itself.
What I do have is pages of notes, that take the story into the early 20's if you want me to reveal them. Otherwise...I may start working on an easier story...with a few more updates to start with, so that I don't lose interest so easily.
1) The story became too complicated for me to tell...the way I structured the story makes it difficult for me to do an update.
2) Growing bored with my save file...when Prussia became Germany, it went insane, sucking all the fun out of the game
3) I have a bad case of writer's block, and a fading interest in the story itself.
What I do have is pages of notes, that take the story into the early 20's if you want me to reveal them. Otherwise...I may start working on an easier story...with a few more updates to start with, so that I don't lose interest so easily.
The hardest things are usually the most rewarding, I'd encourage you to continue, but of cource its all up to you. Its a wonderful tale you have going, I'm always one to enjoy a good Confederate yarn. Sometimes you just need to take a break, over the course of ~To Live and Die in Dixie~ I took several breaks at various lengths, but it ended in a great ride, so don't give up to easily friend!
Maybe I could give it a shot, but that computer, I've moved to a new computer. I still have it, I just don't know if the files are there.
please continue the AAR ive seen to many great stories succumb to writers block! including some of me own