Interregnum 2: Generic Enlightment and Revolution

[MattyG]

Currently few nation files in Interregnum go into the 1700s and the priod we have come to call The Enlightenment or the Age of Reason. Equally, with our redrawn history, such a period could happen in other parts of the world.

While nation specific events are prefereble, we have a long way to go to write full event and what-if variant files for each nation (a very long way).

Accordingly, here is a sequence for modelling the Emlightenment, basing it on high Infra (as this represents the development of science, administration, government and philosophy).

I realise that generic events lack flavour, but so do no events.

Stage One

These events trigger at Infra 6, 7, 8 and 9 with increasing ramifications if you don't allow some form of consultative body. Note that you might get each one, but only once each, as either action sets a flag to prohibit you receiving the same event of that infra level twice. Note also that many nations - via specific events - will have a flag set for consultative_body (Like the Kingdom of Jerusalem's Haute Cour at game start) which prevent any of these triggering.

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {

	# flags set by these events, and other nation-specific revolution/democracy events

		NOT = { flag = supress_at_6 }
		NOT = { flag = consultative_body }
		NOT = { flag = limited_democracy }
		NOT = { flag = full_democracy }
		

	# stability relief
	
		NOT = { stability = 3 }

	# various combinations of infra level and critical DP sliders

		infra = 6
		NOT = { infra = 7 }
		OR = {
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 9  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 7 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 7 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 9  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 8 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 6 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 9  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 6 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 8 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 8  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 9 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 7 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 8  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 8 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 9 }
			}
		}
	}
	name = "Enlightened Ideas Challenge the State"
	desc = "The spread of universities and printing presses has produced philiosophers and thinkers who believe that systematic thinking might be applied to all areas of human activity, and are challenging the autocratic rule of the government. Many of their publications and theories insist upon a different relationship between the individual, society and the state. Its leaders demand greater rights for the individual and a devolution of power from the monarchy."
	
	action_a = {
		name = "Deliver a short, sharp shock"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 12 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 1 }
		command = { type = setflag which = supress_at_6 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Establish a toothless consultative body"
		command = { type = setflag which = consultative_body }
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
	}
}

The next events are iterations of this for higher Infra levels, Only for those wanting to scrutinize the variations.

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {

	# flags set by these events, and other nation-specific revolution/democracy events

		NOT = { flag = supress_at_7 }
		NOT = { flag = consultative_body }
		NOT = { flag = limited_democracy }
		NOT = { flag = full_democracy }
		

	# stability relief
	
		NOT = { stability = 3 }

	# various combinations of infra level and critical DP sliders

		infra = 7
		NOT = { infra = 8 }
		OR = {
			domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 10 }
			domestic = { type = serfdom value = 10 }
			NOT = { domestic = { type = innovative value = 1 } }
			year = 1810
			NOT = { stability = -2 }

			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 8  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 6 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 6 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 8  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 7 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 7 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 8  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 6 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 8 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 8  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 8 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 6 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 7  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 7 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 8 }
			}
		}
	}
	name = "Enlightened Ideas Challenge the State"
	desc = "The spread of universities and printing presses has produced philiosophers and thinkers who believe that systematic thinking might be applied to all areas of human activity, and are challenging the autocratic rule of the government. Many of their publications and theories insist upon a different relationship between the individual, society and the state. Its leaders demand greater rights for the individual and a devolution of power from the monarchy."
	
	action_a = {
		name = "Deliver a short, sharp shock"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 12 value = 2 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
		command = { type = setflag which = supress_at_7 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Establish a toothless consultative body"
		command = { type = setflag which = consultative_body }
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
	}
}
		



event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {

	# flags set by these events, and other nation-specific revolution/democracy events

		NOT = { flag = supress_at_9 }
		NOT = { flag = consultative_body }
		NOT = { flag = limited_democracy }
		NOT = { flag = full_democracy }
		

	# stability relief
	
		NOT = { stability = 3 }

	# various combinations of infra level and critical DP sliders

		infra = 8
		NOT = { infra = 9 }
		OR = {
			domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 9 }
			domestic = { type = serfdom value = 9 }
			NOT = { domestic = { type = innovative value = 2 } }
			year = 1800
			NOT = { stability = -1 }

			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 7  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 5 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 5 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 7  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 6 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 6 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 7  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 5 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 7 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 7  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 7 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 5 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 6  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 6 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 7 }
			}
		}
	}
	name = "Enlightened Ideas Challenge the State"
	desc = "The spread of universities and printing presses has produced philiosophers and thinkers who believe that systematic thinking might be applied to all areas of human activity, and are challenging the autocratic rule of the government. Many of their publications and theories insist upon a different relationship between the individual, society and the state. Its leaders demand greater rights for the individual and a devolution of power from the monarchy."
	
	action_a = {
		name = "Deliver a short, sharp shock"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 12 value = 2 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 4 }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
		command = { type = setflag which = supress_at_8 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -2 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Establish a toothless consultative body"
		command = { type = setflag which = consultative_body }
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
	}
}
		


event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {

	# flags set by these events, and other nation-specific revolution/democracy events

		NOT = { flag = supress_at_9 }
		NOT = { flag = consultative_body }
		NOT = { flag = limited_democracy }
		NOT = { flag = full_democracy }
		

	# stability relief
	
		NOT = { stability = 3 }

	# various combinations of infra level and critical DP sliders

		infra = 9
		NOT = { infra = 10 }
		OR = {
			domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 8 }
			domestic = { type = serfdom value = 8 }
			NOT = { domestic = { type = innovative value = 3 } }
			year = 1790
			NOT = { stability = 0 }

			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 6  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 4 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 4 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 6  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 5 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 5 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 6  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 4 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 6 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 6  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 6 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 4 }
			}
			AND = {
				domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 5  }
				domestic = { type = centralization value = 5 }
				domestic = { type = serfdom value = 6 }
			}
		}
	}
	name = "Enlightened Ideas Challenge the State"
	desc = "The spread of universities and printing presses has produced philiosophers and thinkers who believe that systematic thinking might be applied to all areas of human activity, and are challenging the autocratic rule of the government. Many of their publications and theories insist upon a different relationship between the individual, society and the state. Its leaders demand greater rights for the individual and a devolution of power from the monarchy."
	
	action_a = {
		name = "Deliver a short, sharp shock"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 120 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 2 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 12 value = 3 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 4 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -2 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -2 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
		command = { type = setflag which = supress_at_9 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Establish a toothless consultative body"
		command = { type = setflag which = consultative_body }
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
	}
}

 

[MattyG]

Stage 2

Nations which already have the flag set for consultative_body (but not limited_democracy or full_democracy) will find demands increasing for more power to the people as they increase in social and political development (ie.increased infra level).

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {
		
	# requires you to have established a consultative_body through some event or at game start

		flag = consultative_body

	# but does not have a democracy

		NOT = { flag = limited_democracy }
		NOT = { flag = full_democracy }

	
	# stability relief

		NOT = { stability = 3 }

	# some slider conditions

		OR = {
			domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 6 }
			domestic = { type = centralization value = 6 }
			NOT = { domestic = { type = innovative value = 3 } }
			domestic = { type = serfdom value = 8 }
		}
	}
	name = "Consultative Assembly Demands Power"
	desc = ""

	action_a = {
		name = "Concede genuine power to the assembly"
		command = { type = setflag which = limited_democracy }
		command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -1 }
		command = { type = clrflag which = consultative_body }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Refuse their demands"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 6 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 12 value = 1 }
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "End this farce for good"
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
		command = { type = clrflag which = consultative_body }
	}
}

Extending to a limited_democracy permits certain random events

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {
		flag = limited_democracy
	}
	name = "A United Government"
	desc = "Although typically bickering and sometimes in fervent disagreement, the elected and executive arms of the government appear to be united on the current issues that beleaguer our nation."

	action-a = {
		name = "Excellent"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 3 value = -2 }
		command = { type = ADM which = 3 value = 1 }
		command = { type = DIP which = 3 value = 1 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {
		flag = limited_democracy
		domestic = { type = centralization value = 9 }
	}
	name = "Power Struggle"
	desc = "The increasing authority taken on by the executive is being challenged by the nation's assembly."

	action_a = {
		name = "Back the Assembly"
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -1 }
		command = { type = DIP which = 6 value = -1 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Back the Executive"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = ADM which = 6 value = -1 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {
		flag = limited_democracy
		domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 8 }
	}
	name = "Noble Rights Challeneged"
	desc = "The assembly has challenegd the priviledges of the aristocracy."

	action_a = {
		name = "Back the Assembly"
		command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = -1 }
		command = { type = ADM which = 6 value = 1 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Back the Nobles"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = ADM which = 6 value = -1 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {
		flag = limited_democracy
		domestic = { type = serfdom value = 8 }
	}
	name = "Popular Rights Supported"
	desc = "The assembly has chosen to recognize and enshrine certain rights for the common person."

	action_a = {
		name = "Back the Assembly"
		command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -1 }
		command = { type = ADM which = 6 value = 1 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Veto such a move"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 3 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 6 value = 1 }
	}
}

 

[MattyG]

Stage 3

Nations with the limited_democracy flag might get this event. Esseentially, in the tiem period we are dealing with, there would be little significant pressure for such an 'upgrade'. This one is more for the player to take the opportunity for the benefits it might bring.

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {
	
	# obviously, this flag

		flag = limited_democracy
		NOT = { flag = full_democracy_rejected }

	# infra is irrelevant now

	# the country must be somewhet stable

		stability = -1

	# certain slider minimums

		OR = {
			domestic = { type = innovative value = 6 }
			NOT = { domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 6 } }
			NOT = { domestic = { type = serfdom value = 6 } }
		}
	}
	name = "Expanded Suffrage and the Primacy of the Assembly"
	desc = "Having grown comfortable in its legislative role, demands for greater representation and power in the assembly have become louder. However, these ideas do not have great currency as yet, and 

	action_a = {
		name = "The time is not yet right"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = setflag which = full_democracy_rejected }
	}
	actionb = {
		name = "Accept these proposals"
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 120 value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = offensive value = -1 }
		command = { type = setflag which = full_democracy }
		command = { type = clrflag which = limited democracy }
	}
}

Then there are benefits to be had from full_democracy

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {
		flag = full_democracy
	}
	name = "A United Government"
	desc = "Although typically bickering and sometimes in fervent disagreement, the elected and executive arms of the government appear to be united on the current issues that beleaguer our nation."

	action-a = {
		name = "Excellent"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 3 value = -2 }
		command = { type = ADM which = 3 value = 1 }
		command = { type = DIP which = 3 value = 1 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {
		flag = full_democracy
		domestic = { type = centralization value = 9 }
	}
	name = "Political Division Rife in the Assembly"
	desc = "An issue of great moment for the nation has divided the assembly which seems irreconcilable on the matter."

	action_a = {
		name = "The real problem is too much blather"
		command = { type = stability = -1 }
		command = { type = DIP which = 6 value = -1 }
		command = { type = MIL which = 6 value = -1 }
		command = { type = ADM which = 6 value = -1 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {
		flag = full_democracy
	}
	name = "A Strong Assembly"
	desc = "The assembly is united behind the current first minister who is providing excellent leadership."

	action_a = {
		name = "Excellent"
		command = { type = stability = 1 }
		command = { type = DIP which = 12 value = 1 }
		command = { type = ADM which = 12 value = 1 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {
		flag = full_democracy
		domestic = { type = serfdom value = 8 }
	}
	name = "Fiscal Control Established"
	desc = "With the Assembly essentially in charge of the nations finances, systems of balance, control and accountability are being brought into place."

	action_a = {
		name = "Excellent"
		command = { type = inflation value = -1 }
		command = { type = trade value = 300 }
		command = { type = merchants value = 2 }
		command = { type = ADM which = 6 value = 1 }
	}
}

 

[MattyG]

Stage 4

This event is the ultimate revolution event. It can occur if you maintain very repressive policies (DP sliders) at level 10 infra, or else refused to establish a consultative body twice. If you rea through the full list of conditions, it's pretty clear that you have to make a French-style effort to bring on this particular revolution.

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	trigger = {

	# minimum conditions

		OR = {
			infra = 10
			AND = {
				infra = 9
				OR = {
					badboy = 15
					domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 9 }
					domestic = { type = centralization value = 10 }
					domestic = { type = serfdom value = 9 }
				}
			}
			AND = {
				infra = 8
				OR = {
					badboy = 25
					domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 10 }
					domestic = { type = serfdom value = 10 }
				}
			}
		}

	# stability relief

		NOT = { stability = 3 }

	# flag conditions

		NOT = { flag = consultative_body }
		NOT = { flag = limited_democracy }
		NOT = { flag = full_democracy }
		
		OR = {
			AND = {
				NOT = { flag = supress_at_6 }
				NOT = { flag = supress_at_7 }
			}
			AND = {
				NOT = { flag = supress_at_6 }
				NOT = { flag = supress_at_8 }
			}
			AND = {
				NOT = { flag = supress_at_6 }
				NOT = { flag = supress_at_9 }
			}
			AND = {
				NOT = { flag = supress_at_7 }
				NOT = { flag = supress_at_8 }
			}
			AND = {
				NOT = { flag = supress_at_7 }
				NOT = { flag = supress_at_9 }
			}
			AND = {
				NOT = { flag = supress_at_8 }
				NOT = { flag = supress_at_9 }
			}
			NOT = { domestic = { type = innovative value = 3 }}
			
		}
	}
	name = "Revolution!"
	desc = "Seriously, dude, you were asking for this. Do you think the people would continue doing your bidding minlessly forever?"

	action_a = {
		name = "We have brought this upon ourselves"
		command = { type = setflag = which = full_democracy }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 360 value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 12 value = 4 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 3 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 2 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -3 value = 3000 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -3 value = 3000 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -3 value = 3000 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -3 value = 3000 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -4 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -3 value = 500 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -4 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -3 value = 500 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -4 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -3 value = 500 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -4 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -3 value = 500 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -2 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -2 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -2 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -2 value = 15000 }
		command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -20 }
		command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -20 }
		command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -20 }
		command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -20 }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -3 }
		command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = -4 }
		command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = offensive value = -3 }
	}
}

 

[siafu]

Are you feeling committed to the event desc for stage 4? ;p

 

[Trin Tragula]

Yes please add events for the 1700s! I was a bit dissapointed this was not done for Interregnum 1 before it was abandoned actually.

 

[MattyG]

Siafu: absolutely, there is room for a little humour in this game, I think.


Trin Trangula: Interregnujm 1 abandoned:?! That's a bit harsh. Makes it sound unloved. And really Interregnum 2 is the same mod.

 

[MattyG]

I thought that perhaps players ought to to have the opportunity to establish the basic version (a consultative body) prior to the enlightenment. This event can trigger many times. The only reason NOT to do so is that the random events keyed to the flag limit centralization



Stage Zero

Events to permit the establishment of a consultative body prior to the Enlightenment sequence.

event = {
	id = xxxxxx
	random = yes
	trigger = {

	# flags set by these events, and other nation-specific revolution/democracy events

		NOT = { flag = consultative_body }
		NOT = { flag = limited_democracy }
		NOT = { flag = full_democracy }
	

	# then variants for each infra from 2 - 5

		OR = {
			AND = {
				infra = 2
				NOT = { infra = 3 }
				OR = {
					domestic = { type = innovative value = 2 }
					NOT = { domestic = { type = centralization value = 3 } }
					NOT = { domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 6 } }
				}
				OR = {
					NOT = { stability = -2 }
					NOT = { control = { province = -2 data = -1 } }
					domestic = { type = innovative value = 5 }
					domestic = { type = centralization value = 7 }
				}
			}
			AND = {
				infra = 3
				NOT = { infra = 4 }
				OR = {
					domestic = { type = innovative value = 3 }
					NOT = { domestic = { type = centralization value = 4 } }
					NOT = { domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 5 } }
				}
				OR = {
					NOT = { stability = -2 }
					NOT = { control = { province = -2 data = -1 } }
					domestic = { type = innovative value = 6 }
					domestic = { type = centralization value = 8 }
				}
			}
			AND = {
				infra = 4
				NOT = { infra = 5 }
				OR = {
					domestic = { type = innovative value = 4 }
					NOT = { domestic = { type = centralization value = 5 } }
					NOT = { domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 4 } }
				}
				OR = {
					NOT = { stability = -2 }
					NOT = { control = { province = -2 data = -1 } }
					domestic = { type = innovative value = 7 }
					domestic = { type = centralization value = 9 }
				}
			}
			AND = {
				infra = 5
				NOT = { infra = 6 }
				OR = {
					domestic = { type = innovative value = 5 }
					NOT = { domestic = { type = centralization value = 6 } }
					NOT = { domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 3 } }
				}
				OR = {
					NOT = { stability = -2 }
					NOT = { control = { province = -2 data = -1 } }
					domestic = { type = innovative value = 8 }
					domestic = { type = centralization value = 9 }
				}
			}
		}
	}
	name = "Pressure to Share Power"
	desc = "The social and political conditions are such that pressure for the monarch to share power with the aristocracy and wealthy citizens. You can respond by establishing a consultative body with limited real power, but significant symbollic power, or else meet such demands with a stern response."

	action_a = {
		name = "Establish a consultative body (includes -1 to DIP)"
		command = { type = setflag which = consultative_body }
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = centralization value = -1 }
		command = { type = DIP which = 120 value = -1 }
		command = { type = ADM which = 120 value = 1 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Refuse this demand"
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = -1 }
	}
}

 

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Wow.

 

[Avernite]

This could certainly tie in nicely with the Hanseatic events, where now finally the choice in the 1500's will keep an effect later, being more consultative if you go the hereditary eldermann route, or very close to democracy for the parliamentary route.


And, likewise, Brittany has some things that could tie in nicely between the 1500's and 1700's (parliament and all that). More of a sense of continued history is a fun thing indeed

 

[Incompetent]

This could certainly tie in nicely with the Hanseatic events, where now finally the choice in the 1500's will keep an effect later, being more consultative if you go the hereditary eldermann route, or very close to democracy for the parliamentary route.


And, likewise, Brittany has some things that could tie in nicely between the 1500's and 1700's (parliament and all that). More of a sense of continued history is a fun thing indeed

Yup.

With Scotland, I did quite a few events about the Parliament (which already exists in 1419, but may or may not be toothless), and there's also a potential for more of a tie-in with the educational events. I think it's probably best if Scotland is either exempted from generic reform events or has special customised ones, so we can tie them in with choices the player has already made.

The Teutonic Order also have a couple of political reform events, but they could probably do with getting more attention.


As for the generic events, I'm not sure how far we want to go when you consider real history. By the mid-19th century, people were agitating for all sorts of things, but that's outside the time period. Also, a lot of radicals were inspired by the French revolution and the Napoleonic code, and the Interregnum world is unlikely to have any single sequence of events of that magnitude. I think even by 1820, the furthest most advocates of reform would be prepared to go is to call for a system of suffrage limited to adult males above a certain property threshhold - women and the poor were considered too irresponsible to vote. So while a player could institute full democracy, it would be very innovative, very controversial among the country's elite, and probably not all that beneficial to the player. For a start, I think Serfdom 0 or 1 should be a requirement, as universal suffrage represents a radical 'Free Citizens' policy, and rejecting it shouldn't cause a stabhit.

If on the other hand by 'full democracy' you mean that the assembly becomes the main source of power in the country, rather than the King, that certainly did happen in the time period. Such a powerful assembly should essentially override the King's ADM value, and possibly DIP and MIL as well, so that you might as well put the assembly in the monarch file. In fact, that's an idea: put 'National Assembly' or what have you in every country's monarch file, to be awoken if the country has become a republic, or a republic in all but name. The National Assembly would have generic stats, but of course they'd be moved around in practice by these special random events.

 

[siafu]

How easy or difficult will it be to override/disable these events for countries that do have late-game events (when such a thing exists...)? Will we have to add a NOT statement for each country to be excluded?

 

[Avernite]

How easy or difficult will it be to override/disable these events for countries that do have late-game events (when such a thing exists...)? Will we have to add a NOT statement for each country to be excluded?

Or include a flag in the event, say a 'not= flag= republic_events', and then set that flag for any nation that has such events.