[Interest Check] Interactive Countries of an Alternate World

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It would be neat to see some totally original cultures and nations, ones that aren't just deviations of present day nations.

Well, here you go :p
Republic of Normandy: After centuries of English rule, the Normans develop a unique culture that is a creole of English, French, and Norman known as "Normeund". This eventually leads to an independence movement that violently revolts from Britain during the Enlightenment period and wins the war.
 

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Actually, I Alps would like to write some countries for the Levant as well. So I am writing a big history for Italy-Greece-Asia Minor- Levant- Egypt-Lybia- basically the Eastern Mediterrainian. It will include a variety of nations, from empires to monarchies to republics to communist/socialist countries to fascist dictatorships and more. It will be a long and detailed history starting from the Fall of Rome. I'm on a trip so I can work offline tommorow.
 

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It sounds like a pretty popular idea! If someone would like to start one of their own, then feel free, and I, and I assume everyone else that commented, will take part! If not, I will probably start one within the next week.
 

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I'm thinking a small state somewhere in east asia. While a struggling communist dystopia today, they have a proud history of forming a far fetching empire in ancient times, with some sort of zen order of martial artist monks reigned supreme. Today they suck, though.
So pretty much Tibet?
 

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Vandalic/Visigothic North Africa would be interesting.
 

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OK guys, here it is. I spent a couple hours working on this. I'll make a map soon, but here it is:

All of these nations people's majority are Catholic, just different Rites(see below)
Roman Rite:
-Kingdom of Rome-Semi-absolute monarchy
-Republic of Trent-Republic
-Kingdom of Lombardy-Constitional Monarchy
-People's Republic of Corsica and Sardinia- communist regime

Byzantine Rite:
-Byzantine Empire, survived, controls Constantinople, southern Bulgaria to Thessilonica and a bit Northwest of Asia Minor, to around Nicea- abosulte monarchy
-Athens- democracy, controls Achea
-Dominion of Sparta- controls Peloponnese- fascist dictatorship
-People's Republic of Thessalia- controls Northeastern Greece-socialist dictatorship
-Commune of Delphi- controls Northwestern Greece- Communist dicatorship
-The Democratic Socialist Republic of Crete- controls Crete-fascist dictatorship
-Kingdom of Armenia- controls much of Eastern Asia Minor.- absolute monarchy
-Mercantile Republic of Trebizond- controls Crimean Peninsula and area around Trebizond-oligarchy
-Empire of Antioch- controls Antioch, western Syria to Damascus Cyprus and Cicilia- constitutional monarchy
-Democratic Nation of Ephesus- controls western coast of Asia Minor.- demnot menacy
-United Federation of Asia Minor- buch of small little countries comprising the rest of Asia Minor. Capital is Iconium. City states, run by a council.

Coptic:
The Theocracy of Coptic Egypt-controls Egypt- Theocracy.

Special- has all three:
-Kingdom of Jerusalem- controls Palestine region, some of Jordan- absolute monarchy


After the Last Western Emperor was deposed in 476 AD, Odacer proclaimed himself King of Rome. However, a Roman named Antonius Brutus raised an army to depose him with the help of the Eastern Empire- on the condition that the new King be a vassal of the Emperor of Constantinople. After a four year long bloody war, Antonius slew Odacer himself in the ruins of Rome. He took the new crown of Rome, but was subject to the Eastern Empire. He repaired most of Rome and built new defenses and Churches, but left the original forum ruins as historic monuments. He stabilized the region of central and southern Italy, and his area of control extended to Ravenna. However, Barbarian petty Kingdoms and states carved up the North Italian peninsula. He united his territory as the Romans, keeping the Latin language alive. King Antonius knew the North would be his project. He began construction of a wall and series of fortifications on the Rubricon and across the penesula. It was ambitious and costly, taking much of Antonius's personal wealth as a state. The project was stalled, not being completed until his grandson, Antonius III, in 542. Antonius I passed away peacefully on March 15, 500 AD. He died leaving a secure vassal of the Byzantines who were the "Emperors of Rome" again, at leastde facto.

Meanwhile the East prospered. With the Kingdom of Rome their loyal vassals and part of their Empire ,the Emperors turned their attention Eastward. Now instead of focusing campaigns Westward they focused Eastward, building defenses, securing borders, training defensive armies. Thus though challenging they held their territories. The city of Constantinople grew in strength and power. The Persian cultures continuously bashed the Eastern borders, but the Byzantine Armies continued to hold them back. The Great Persian War with the Byzantines, lasting from 579-582, saw the city of Antioch besieged 4 times, though none were successful. The war left the Byzantines weaker then before, though they did recover. However, they lost Lybia from their control. The hardest challenge for the Byzantines would be the rise of the Islamic Empire in the eighth century. The Islamic armies would march north from the Arabian Peninsula, attacking Israel and Egypt. This started the great Byzantine-Islam war(called by the Byzantines). The West largely did not now as a nearly twenty year long war began. From to the war lasted, taking severe tolls on the Byzantines. the Byzantines initially kept them in check, a stalemate. However the tides were blowing in favor of the Islamic Empire were hard pressed in, being pushed back to Alexandria. The Emperor called for aid from the brilliant commander Julius I, called the great, King of Rome, who had conquered Northern Italy. When his forces arrived, Alexandria had been under siege for several months and nearly given in. Gaza had fallen, and armies were marching north towards Jerusalem. He first lead his forces to break the siege of Alexandria, before marching up north and recapturing Gaza. He defeated the Islamic army outside Jerusalem, driving them back. He was going to press on to Mecca, but he was assassinated on July 15. His armies returned home, and neither the Islamic Empire or the Byzantine Empire had the will to continue fighting. Thus ended the war, with the Byzantines holding the the Palestine region, Egypt, and Syria. However, the Islamic Empire had conquered much of Persia and eastward towards India. The Byzantines rebuilt their forces, and while minor wars continued, the Byzantines held on to it until till the Century of Strife.

After the death of Julius the Great, his son Julius II was only 3 years old. Julius's brother, Crispis III, proclaimed himself King. This led to a civil war between the forces of Crispis and Julius. Julius's forces held most of central and southern Italy, while Crispi's held northern Italy, Sicily, Sardinia, and small pockets around Naples, Ravenna and Pisa. Early on Crispis, who shared his brother's military talents. dominated, capturing South Italy and pushing a hole through Spoleto, splitting a hole in Julius' territory. However, after soundly defeating Julius's forces in Assisi, he planned an attack on Rome. However, he suffered a stroke during the night, killing him. His forces were thrown into disary, and his territory split apart by various leaders and factions. When Julius came of age, he reconquered Sicily and most of Italian Peninsula, but lost Corisca, Sardinia, and Most of Northern Italy, which split up into many tiny countries- mainly the Republic of Venice and the Kingdom of Lombardy. These would be major problems in the future, but now the Romans stayed behind the Wall of Antonius, and bolstered their defenses.

Meanwhile, there was no Great Schism and the Catholic Church remained undivided. The problem was averted by the fact that Rome politically was vassals and allies, and the Council of Bologna in 974, where it decided that each culture may have its own approved rite. As of now, the main rite is the Latin Rite, though a Byzantine Rite, Coptic Rite, and Persian Rite are being used. Iconoclasm was stamped out before it became a problem in the East. The Pope was not as politically involved in European politics, not having as much temporal power. The Cardinal of Colleges was comprised of Latin Cardinals, while each Rite having a Patriarch. The Patriarchs were subject only to the Pope, but there was only one Patriarch ever called out like this, in 1231. The Patriarch of Constantinople, named Michael, started preaching Arian ideas. He refused to recant, and was excommunicated. He later reconciled. With this being the exception, they were given significant freedom.

More or less, things remained this way for several centuries. There were attacks, but they held on. For the next century, Rome was weakened, but it recovered. It never expanded again, but it developed internally. Asia Minor remained Greek. The Christian Middle Eastern culture which developed on the coast were known as "Coptic". Byzantium held on, despite constant attacks. Rome always assisted them when needed, and most of its armies fought for the defense of Byzantium. However, during the 18th Century, things took a turn for the worse.

The 1700's for Byzantium is called the century of strife. To the World, Byzantinum was outdated. Sure, with the help of Rome, they had developed gunpowder and tried to keep the most up to date military possible. However, things began to take a turn for the worse. In 1729, King Maximus VIII Brutus, called "the terrible", a tyrant and hated by his subjects, declared independence from Byzantium. The Pope told him this was a bad idea, so he locked the Pope away in a dungeon. He put up an Anti-Pope in his place, causing discontent. Though he was deposed after a fierce rebellion and his brother Julius V took over later and the anti-Pope was deposed, it was too late. The break was made. Without help, the East was in a shaky position. Then came the famine. The famine caused rebellions and factions to break up. The Byzantine military tried its best, but the rebellions were too great. A man named Joseph Helios, the biggest threat, founded his own Empire- the Empire of Antioch, which controlled Western Syria. The Theocracy of Coptic Egypt and the Kingdom of Jerusalem also broke away. The Patriarch of Constantinople beseeched the Pope for aid, which he agreed. Julius V had just finished a civil war, and now had to help his Byzantine forces. Once again the Romans saved the Byzantines from certain defeat in 1753. Peace was temporarily restored, though not for long. In 1776, the great rebellion broke out. Before the Rome could help, the Emperor was captured, and forced to watch his Empire be split apart by various factions. He remained in control of from Thessalonica to Nicea.

These new factions sometimes changed, sometimes stayed, sometimes were destroyed. Most began as Kingdoms of Republics, however much change has happened. However several factions are worth noting in this history. By far the most powerful was the Empire of Antioch, ruled by the Helios Dynasty. The Kingdom of Jerusalem was bitterly attacked by multiple factions, however it did mange to hold on to Palestine, and important alliances with Antioch and Egypt were important. The Theocracy of Coptic Egypt, ruled by the Patriarch of Alexandria, was also frequently attacked. The Dominion of Sparta rekindled a fierce warrior culture, and the Democracy of Athens was vital in the Greek Renaissance from 1850-1890. Changes have happened, revolutions, civil wars not named here.

There is still an Emperor in Constantinople, and a King in Rome. Viewed as ancient, these countries are respected, though not close to superpowers. They are shadows of what they once were. There have been other wars revolutions, challenges not mentioned here. This is but a brief history.
 

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Too much block of text. It's only an interest check.
 

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Too much block of text. It's only an interest check.

Well, I thought I would put some effort into it. Thanks for all the encouragement. Good to know effort is a crime now. :(
 

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K. I' going to post the test intro. If anyone has any problems with it, let me know and I'll fix them before posting the real thing.

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  4. You can make 2 countries per post, and 1 post per page (this may change to 2 posts per page, depending on how many people post).
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Official Name:
Commonly Used Name(s):
Government Type:
Current Ruling Party (if applicable):
Capital:
Head of State:
Cultures:
Languages:
Religions:
Population:
Founding Date:
Location:
(as much detail as possible, even if you post with a map)
History:
(History Here)

Flag: (This is optional)


Let me know if there are too many or too few. Any other rules? Anything you would change? Remember, this is a test intro to see what everyone thinks of the Rules and Format, don't actually start posting your countries :).
 

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Oh, and I almost forgot. This is the map we would be using:

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It is just a generic blank map that includes rivers. Whenever anyone creates a country, they can download the most recent map, update it with their own country (with an original color), then reupload it and post it below their created country. If they don't wish to do this, I, or someone else, will update it with their country whenever.
 

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K. I' going to post the test intro. If anyone has any problems with it, let me know and I'll fix them before posting the real thing.

Countries of an Alternate World

Rules
  1. Try to make them differ from real world countries. Don't make a People's Republic of France that has the exact borders that IRL France has; give it some variance.
  2. No taking other countries' lands. If you think your country needs a certain slab of land, ask the creator that has claimed it. If they say yes, feel free to take it.
  3. No ginormous empires that span thousands of miles. If you must, try and keep them in the less interesting places. Don't have them take up the entirety of Europe or North America.
  4. You can make 2 countries per post, and 1 post per page (this may change to 2 posts per page, depending on how many people post).
Format

Official Name:
Commonly Used Name(s):
Government Type:
Current Ruling Party (if applicable):
Capital:
Head of State:
Cultures:
Languages:
Religions:
Population:
Founding Date:
Location:
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Let me know if there are too many or too few. Any other rules? Anything you would change? Remember, this is a test intro to see what everyone thinks of the Rules and Format, don't actually start posting your countries :).

I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind us doing something a little less rigid. Perhaps just staking our claim to the modern nation and working on our backstory, fleshing out the modern era as we move along. For example, I was thinking of writing a series in the form of a history text that would explain this ancient empire's rise and fall, and then the shattered mess they become rolling into the modern age.
 

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So I cant use the history I made? If I cant use the countries I made I just make the Byzantine Empire not shatter and Ill make that with the Kingdom of Rome.

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I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind us doing something a little less rigid. Perhaps just staking our claim to the modern nation and working on our backstory, fleshing out the modern era as we move along. For example, I was thinking of writing a series in the form of a history text that would explain this ancient empire's rise and fall, and then the shattered mess they become rolling into the modern age.

Staking claims is good. I don't know what you mean by modern nations. Do you mean keeping borders the same as real world borders?

So I cant use the history I made? If I cant use the countries I made I just make the Byzantine Empire not shatter and Ill make that with the Kingdom of Rome.

You could, as long as they aren't all enormous and take up most of the world. But you can only make two countries per post, so that one person doesn't create the entire world.
 

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Don't worry, I think I'll just make the unshattered Byzantine Empire and the Kingdom of Rome. I'm not wasting the hours I spent on that history. I'll just take away the other countries into just the Byzantine Empire.
 

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Staking claims is good. I don't know what you mean by modern nations. Do you mean keeping borders the same as real world borders?

What I mean is that I only have a vague idea of what my nation will be in modern times, and I'd prefer to work backwards, fleshing out my backstory from ancient times, bringing it up to present day. So if it's cool, I might just stake my claim, post bare bones info on my nation, and dive right into the back story.
 

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What I mean is that I only have a vague idea of what my nation will be in modern times, and I'd prefer to work backwards, fleshing out my backstory from ancient times, bringing it up to present day. So if it's cool, I might just stake my claim, post bare bones info on my nation, and dive right into the back story.

So you mean describe its modern day characteristics, and then post history and back story later on? So cut out history and have it be more of an optional addition that can be added later?
 

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So you mean describe its modern day characteristics, and then post history and back story later on? So cut out history and have it be more of an optional addition that can be added later?

Yeah, er well, maybe just posting a very brief synopsis of history, and rather then just moving on to another nation, keep fleshing out the backstory of our nation.
 

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Official Name: Empire of the Romans
Commonly Used Name(s): Byzantine Empire
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Current Ruling Party (if applicable): n/a
Capital:
Constantinople
Head of State: Basileus Ioannes XXXVI
Cultures: Greek and Coptic
Languages: Greek
Religions: Greek Catholic
Population: 235 Million
Founding Date: 324 AD
Location: Greece, Asia Minor and Levant

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Official Name: Holy Kingdom of Rome
Commonly Used Name(s): Rome
Government Type: Semi-Absolute Monarchy
Current Ruling Party (if applicable): Conservatives
Capital: Rome
Head of State: King Antonius XXI
Cultures: Latin
Languages: Latin
Religions: Roman Catholic
Population: 67 Million
Founding Date: 480 AD
Location: Italy

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History: After the Last Western Emperor was deposed in 476 AD, Odacer proclaimed himself King of Rome. However, a Roman named Antonius Brutus raised an army to depose him with the help of the Eastern Empire- on the condition that the new King be a vassal of the Emperor of Constantinople. After a four year long bloody war, Antonius slew Odacer himself in the ruins of Rome. He took the new crown of Rome, but was subject to the Eastern Empire. He repaired most of Rome and built new defenses and Churches, but left the original forum ruins as historic monuments. He stabilized the region of central and southern Italy, and his area of control extended to Ravenna. However, Barbarian petty Kingdoms and states carved up the North Italian peninsula. He united his territory as the Romans, keeping the Latin language alive. King Antonius knew the North would be his project. He began construction of a wall and series of fortifications on the Rubricon and across the penesula. It was ambitious and costly, taking much of Antonius's personal wealth as a state. The project was stalled, not being completed until his grandson, Antonius III, in 542. Antonius I passed away peacefully on March 15, 500 AD. He died leaving a secure vassal of the Byzantines who were the "Emperors of Rome" again, at leastde facto.

Meanwhile the East prospered. With the Kingdom of Rome their loyal vassals and part of their Empire ,the Emperors turned their attention Eastward. Now instead of focusing campaigns Westward they focused Eastward, building defenses, securing borders, training defensive armies. Thus though challenging they held their territories. The city of Constantinople grew in strength and power. The Persian cultures continuously bashed the Eastern borders, but the Byzantine Armies continued to hold them back. The Great Persian War with the Byzantines, lasting from 579-582, saw the city of Antioch besieged 4 times, though none were successful. The war left the Byzantines weaker then before, though they did recover. However, they lost Lybia from their control. The hardest challenge for the Byzantines would be the rise of the Islamic Empire in the eighth century. The Islamic armies would march north from the Arabian Peninsula in 645, attacking Israel and Egypt. This started the great Byzantine-Islam war(called by the Byzantines), from 645-659. The West largely did not now as a nearly twenty year long war began. From to the war lasted, taking severe tolls on the Byzantines. the Byzantines initially kept them in check, a stalemate. However the tides were blowing in favor of the Islamic Empire were hard pressed in, being pushed back to Alexandria in 657. The Emperor called for aid from the brilliant commander Julius I, called the great, King of Rome, who had conquered Northern Italy. When his forces arrived, Alexandria had been under siege for several months and nearly given in. Gaza had fallen, and armies were marching north towards Jerusalem. He first lead his forces to break the siege of Alexandria, before marching up north and recapturing Gaza. He defeated the Islamic army outside Jerusalem, driving them back. He was going to press on to Mecca, but he was assassinated on July 15 659. His armies returned home, and neither the Islamic Empire or the Byzantine Empire had the will to continue fighting. Thus ended the war, with the Byzantines holding the the Palestine region, Egypt, and Syria. However, the Islamic Empire had conquered much of Persia and eastward towards India. The Byzantines rebuilt their forces, and while minor wars continued, the Byzantines held on to it until till the Century of Strife.

After the death of Julius the Great, his son Julius II was only 3 years old. Julius's brother, Crispis III, proclaimed himself King. This led to a civil war between the forces of Crispis and Julius. Julius's forces held most of central and southern Italy, while Crispi's held northern Italy, Sicily, Sardinia, and small pockets around Naples, Ravenna and Pisa. Early on Crispis, who shared his brother's military talents. dominated, capturing South Italy and pushing a hole through Spoleto, splitting a hole in Julius' territory. However, after soundly defeating Julius's forces in Assisi, he planned an attack on Rome. However, he suffered a stroke during the night, killing him. His forces were thrown into disary, and his territory split apart by various leaders and factions. When Julius came of age, he reconquered Sicily and most of Italian Peninsula, but lost Corisca, Sardinia, and Most of Northern Italy, which split up into many tiny countries- mainly the Republic of Venice and the Kingdom of Lombardy. These would be major problems in the future, but now the Romans stayed behind the Wall of Antonius, and bolstered their defenses.

Meanwhile, there was no Great Schism and the Catholic Church remained undivided. The problem was averted by the fact that Rome politically was vassals and allies, and the Council of Bologna in 974, where it decided that each culture may have its own approved rite. As of now, the main rite is the Latin Rite, though a Byzantine Rite, Coptic Rite, and Persian Rite are being used. Iconoclasm was stamped out before it became a problem in the East. The Pope was not as politically involved in European politics, not having as much temporal power. The Cardinal of Colleges was comprised of Latin Cardinals, while each Rite having a Patriarch. The Patriarchs were subject only to the Pope, but there was only one Patriarch ever called out like this, in 1231. The Patriarch of Constantinople, named Michael, started preaching Arian ideas. He refused to recant, and was excommunicated. He later reconciled. With this being the exception, they were given significant freedom.

More or less, things remained this way for several centuries. There were attacks, but they held on. For the next century, Rome was weakened, but it recovered. It never expanded again, but it developed internally. Asia Minor remained Greek. The Christian Middle Eastern culture which developed on the coast were known as "Coptic". Byzantium held on, despite constant attacks. Rome always assisted them when needed, and most of its armies fought for the defense of Byzantium. However, during the 18th Century, things took a turn for the worse.

The 1700's for Byzantium is called the century of strife. To the World, Byzantinum was outdated. Sure, with the help of Rome, they had developed gunpowder and tried to keep the most up to date military possible. However, things began to take a turn for the worse. In 1729, King Maximus VIII Brutus, called "the terrible", a tyrant and hated by his subjects, declared independence from Byzantium. The Pope told him this was a bad idea, so he locked the Pope away in a dungeon. He put up an Anti-Pope in his place, causing discontent. The break was made, the war of had begin. Without help, the East was in a shaky position. Then came the famine. The famine caused rebellions, which put a strain on the Byzantines. The final battle of Gallipoli in 1736 ended the war of Independence. Though Maximus the Terrible was deposed after a fierce rebellion and his brother Julius V took over later and the anti-Pope was deposed, it was too late. Rome had split off. And though the Byzantines had many problems, the miraculously held on to their territories.

There is still an Emperor in Constantinople, and a King in Rome. Viewed as ancient, these countries are respected, though not close to superpowers. They are shadows of what they once were. There have been other wars revolutions, challenges not mentioned here. This is but a brief history.

And now watch Rovsea come and insult me for putting effort into things, cause interest threads apparently mean no effort. No one can ever be excited for a game oh no.
 

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