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Actually given that PoD, Italy had already been driven out of East Africa, and Haile Selassie would have had a couple of years to get all the pieces of Italian ass out of his guerillas' boots. Gideon Force FTW!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_African_Campaign_(World_War_II)

I heartily recommend the inclusion of Ethiopia on the UN side, not as a minor but perhaps as a 'middleweight' power. It might seem far fetched to have them as an advanced nation, but from what my father has said about Korea in the 50s, more farfetched things have happened.

Ethiopia isn't quite a middle power, but it's a big up-and-coming economy and the centerpiece of the Non-Aligned Movement (complete with emperors and Eritria, yet.) They certainly could be playable.

Is president Jerry Brown this Jerry Brown?

The very same. OTL he ran against Clinton in the Democratic primaries and got very far. He also faced off against Clinton TTL...in the general election. In this world's leftier USA (itself a result of a cold war against fascism rather than communism), Clinton falls squarely as a pretty liberal Republican. Since the president hasn't been sworn in yet in 1997, whoever gets the USA will be able to make that choice. (In-game, you will be able to choose your election results / transfers of power, but I can veto it if it's implausible. So clear it with me first.)

Next entries in the OSS Factbook will be Italy, the Antarctic Reich, and the USSR, probably in that order.
 

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I demand President Springsteen
What's funny is that all of the celebrities who turned Republican in the 70s and 80s OTL are now going to be Socialists, so people like Charlton Heston and Springsteen are likely Dems or Liberal Republicans, while British actors like Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart are far to the right of them.
 

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I also demand Prime Minister Gandalf.

On a more serious note, did the various cultural changes of the late 20th century happen? Civil Rights, women's lib, sexuality revolution, etc? Or will we be sticking with a postwar values system to complement our Roaring 40s style?
 

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I also demand Prime Minister Gandalf.

On a more serious note, did the various cultural changes of the late 20th century happen? Civil Rights, women's lib, sexuality revolution, etc? Or will we be sticking with a postwar values system to complement our Roaring 40s style?
According to the US profile, both Humphrey and McGovern instituted social reforms, so I think we have the values system of the 21st century (at least in the US).
 

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Can't wait for the next profiles. Keep up the good stuff!
 

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I also demand Prime Minister Gandalf.

On a more serious note, did the various cultural changes of the late 20th century happen? Civil Rights, women's lib, sexuality revolution, etc? Or will we be sticking with a postwar values system to complement our Roaring 40s style?

hue

you may have to wait and see. The UK has generally remained more conservative than the other UN powers, especially the US, France and China. But still, Prime Minister Gandalf.

As to the latter question: Race relations, at least in the West, are in fact even better than OTL due to both leftier governments in power across the free world and the fact that the fascist world exists as a sort of "un-role model." Not only do minorities have legal protection equivalent to OTL's, due to more anti-poverty programs and affirmative action analogues, many are better off materially as well. Women's rights were slower going by comparison, but also managed to get through and are roughly as far along as OTL, if not at Scandinavian levels. Funnily enough, China is a world leader in women's rights TTL and had a female president (Soong May-ling) during the 70s.

Sexual politics of this world are hard to determine; while the 40s were very conservative by our standards, they were actually in a lot of ways more libertine than the 50s would be. I've tried to adhere to that whenever possible; this isn't the Fallout-verse. What I personally think makes the most sense for this type of world is that most legal barriers are either gone or disappearing, but society is much more prudish about discussing or showing them in public. Society allows more space for more liberal lifestyles legally, but talking about it outside the home or showing explicit things in common discourse is still strictly taboo. Dating is still regimented, divorce is taken very seriously, people worry much more about sex outside a committed relationship, etc - but the law and all your community isn't going to come down on you if it happens to be two dudes doing the dating, for example. (Gay marriage in particular is about ten years away across the West. Legally, it's about the same as OTL 1997.)

Of course, all that applies to the West, China and Japan. The Axis keeps women barefoot and pregnant, and as for race...well, I think you can figure that out. The USSR, on the other hand, is actually much more libertine than the West - a hippie would have felt right at home in 1980s Moscow.

Expect Italy later today, and possibly the Antarctic Reich. Not everything is sunshine and roses.
 

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Had a random, but awesome, thought I should share.

In this timeline, there was a hollywood masterpiece in 1960 called The Highlanders. It was a heavily romanticized story of a lieutenant in the Scottish Black Watch (played by a young Sean Connery) during their tragic campaign to help liberate Ethiopia. Sidney Poitier won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor, and the film rallied support in the US for the ongoing fight in Ethiopia. At the end, as the Highlanders are ordered back to Britain due to the peace just as they and their ehtiopian comrades were about to strike the death blow to the Italian occupiers, Connery memorably kissed an Oromo princess, played by Eartha Kitt.

The WWII East Africa campaign ran out of steam because of trouble in India, which diverted the troops that in OTL drove out the Italians. There was still a British-backed insurgency, but at the time peace was signed Italy was still clutching to Eritrea and Addis Abbaba, and so the UN left it in Italian hands post war.
 

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KINGDOM OF ITALY


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Official Name: Regno d'Italia
Short Form: Italy
Capital: Rome
Duce: Silvio Berlusconi
Government: Constitutional monarchy (de jure,) totalitarian single-party fascist state under the National Fascist Party (de facto)

History:

The Kingdom of Italy is the home of the fascist ideology. The first Duce of Italy, Benito Mussolini, had a great deal of personal distaste for Hitler, but nevertheless was a founding member of the Tripartite Pact that would later become the foundation of the Axis Powers. Mussolini took great pains to distinguish his regime from National Socialist Germany, including by not winning many battles. The Italian Army in Libya, despite fielding imported mecha from Japan, fell to Anglo-American forces like dominoes. Despite this, however, the Italians managed to reverse their fortunes somewhat just as the previously victorious Germans and Japanese began to lose ground. They managed to hold the Allies back at the Anzio landings in late 1943; had they failed, the Allies could have launched a lightning attack on Rome and decapitated one of the major components of the Axis. The German leadership was impressed by the Italian victory and quietly shelved Operation Latinum, a plot to assassinate the King of Italy and reduce Mussolini to a German puppet so that the Germans could better coordinate the war effort.


Italy’s reversal of fortune could not save the Axis at large, however. A renewed British offensive in Ethiopia significantly disrupted Italian colonial presence there, diverting enough troops from the mainland for the Americans to attempt another landing near Naples. With the Germans apparently on the backfoot, French negotiators reached out to the Italian leadership and struck a deal: in exchange for pressuring Germany to return Alsace-Lorraine to France (and Malmady to the Belgians, at the insistence of crafty Belgian diplomat Henri Savarin), France would support Italy in keeping its colonies. Tunisia, a French colony occupied by the Italians, would be granted independence. The Italians agreed, and settled down to consolidate their hold over their colonies and what was left of their sphere of influence in the Balkans.


The 1950s would be a calm and relatively prosperous time for Italy. Colonization of Libya proceeded apace, with Italians and Italianized Arabs approaching a plurality of Libyan citizens. Ethiopia was more rebellious, with almost continuous low-level guerilla warfare (instigated, fumed Italian propagandists, by MI6). The Balkans proved difficult as well, with ultranationalists in Albania and Greece locked in conflict with members of their fascist parties who were more willing to kowtow to Rome in exchange for favors. The Greek civil war between pro-Italian monarchist-fascists and pro-Turkish republican fascists in 1959 would mark the beginning of a gradual decline of Italian influence across the Mediterranean region, as Italians were being sent to die for a conflict that most of the populace did not care about. It’s not as if the enemy would leave the Axis, after all; they should be abandoned to their fate.


Mussolini’s last years were marked by other signs of trouble across the Italian sphere. Seeking one last glorious war, Mussolini invaded the unstable Republic of Tunisia in late 1963, which was essentially a French protectorate. France was furious and sent troops to defend Tunisia, and French and Italian soldiers met on the fields of battle. The war threatened to draw in the entirety of the UN and Axis Powers, with Spain and the USSR respectively goading their allies on, but neither America nor Germany wished to start a world war over Tunisia and pulled them back. Combined with the Cyprus Missile Crisis, 1963 was remembered as “the year the world nearly ended.” In the end, Tunisia would remain free, but Franco-Italian fighting had made the young democracy unstable and it collapsed into its own civil war. Italian-backed nationalists overthrew the French-backed government in a bloody conflict that dragged on into 1968. The new regime was almost embarassingly subservient to Italy for “nationalist” standards, and Tunisia gradually became an appendage of the Italian empire. 1968 would be the end of another era, as Mussolini died of old age and his protege Italo Balbo became the next Duce. A period of brief infighting in Rome before Balbo’s appointment inspired the Ethiopians to rise up, under the leadership of the exiled Haile Selassie who returned from London. The Ethiopian War was a nasty conflict, made worse by infighting between Muslim and Orthodox rebels, and both Italian and Ethiopian forces fought brutally for their cause. The Ethiopian Empire was recognized by the UN in early 1970, but fighting would drag on until 1979, when Italian colonial forces were surrounded and forced to surrender in the Battle of Asayta.


Ethiopian success only made Italy’s problems elsewhere worse. Inspired by the National Front for the Liberation of Ethiopia, the People’s Socialist Army of Libya, a militia captained by Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, rose up in Libya in 1975 and began what has become a twenty-two year insurrection that has consumed Italian energy and resources in a bottomless pit. Seemingly unkillable, Gaddafi raised a powerful force of both Arab and Italian Libyans who supported independence. Backed at first by the USSR and then by the Americans, the “Desert Viper” is a household name in the United States and is highly respected as an anti-fascist hero. This was little comfort to Balbo and his fellows, who in 1980 added an economic recession to their list of woes. He would not live to see its end, as he died in 1982 at the age of 86.

The 1980s brought little more happiness to Italy. The next Duce, Pietro Bagdolio (son of the Field Marshal of the same name), was a relatively kind man but not a very competent one. He repealed the last of the Italian racial laws implemented at Germany’s behest (they were rarely enforced, but remained an issue amongst Italian Muslims and Jews.) His wife, a Vietnamese princess exiled from her country after Ho Chi Minh’s revolution named Phuong Mai, campaigned for the rights of Italian women with some success. He even worked on decentalizing the government somewhat, and it was this policy that would be the final straw. Bagdolio was impeached by the Grand Council of Fascism in 1985 and replaced by the positively ancient Giorgio Almirante. Almirante did little but ineffectively continue the war in Libya, and upon his death in 1998 he was replaced by the current Duce, Silvio Berlusconi.


Duce Berlusconi is fantastically corrupt, and has managed to convert much of the Italian state apparatus into a way to make money for his personal conglomerate and spends whatever’s left, it is rumored, on wild sex parties with Libyan dancers in harem pants. However, “bunga bunga” will not save the Italian regime from itself. In recent years, chronic unemployment, the Libyan war and sharp increases in taxes have given rise to democratic movements that the Berlusconi government has taken little action to suppress. Fearing a backlash, Berlusconi’s less decadent advisors ponder what to do as the Duce seems too concerned with money and parties to take action. Protests have broken out last year in Turin, Genoa and Palermo, and they demand everything from a restoration of democracy to complete withdrawal from Libya. Some think that Italy’s problems could be solved if the Duce could be roused from his hedonistic stupor. Others believe that the writing is on the wall. As 1997 begins and Rome grows ever more tense, the world’s eyes are on Italy as she begins the next tumultuous phase of her history.
 

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UNION OF SOVIET SOCIALIST REPUBLICS


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Official Name: Союз Советских Социалистических Республик
Short Form: Soviet Union, USSR
Capital: Moscow
Premier: Mikhail Gorbachev
Government: Single party communist state under the Communist Party of the Soviet Union

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is the most powerful communist state on Earth, and the only communist Great Power. Always something of an odd man out amongst the UN powers, the help of the Soviets was crucial in holding back the German war machine. No nation lost more men and women (the USSR quickly realized it could not to let anyone capable of firing a gun go to waste when the Germans blitzed through Ukraine) in the Second Great War than the USSR. Though Russia has lost much, the fact that she still can stand with China and the United States as the UN’s world policemen is a testament to the strength of the Soviet people.

The Soviet Union provided more than soldiers to the Allied war effort. As early as fall 1941, the Soviets unleashed the first Allied-developed wunderwaffen on the Germans: the Tesla Tank. Based on the work of American scientist Nikola Tesla that was seized upon in secret Soviet labs, the Tesla Tank was an armored vehicle that fired electrical bolts to disable enemy heavy armor in a single shot or, failing that, electrocute enemy soldiers. This technology enabled the Soviets to hold the Germans back despite heavy losses on all sides. Interestingly enough, while the Germans mainly responded by throwing bigger tanks at the problem, Finland experimented with rubber suits and other anti-Tesla weaponry. Many would credit these experiments, crude as they were, with giving the Finns the advantage in the Winter War and helping them push into Karelia.

Despite the heroic efforts of the USSR in holding back the fascist menace, it would not be enough. The limited success of the Western Allies until the Liberation of France would put almost all of the burden on the Soviets, and they had to trade land for time. German forces were two hundred miles from Moscow, then one hundred, then (in the darkest of days) fifty. When the Normandy landings succeeded, the Germans pulled men back from the Eastern Front and the Soviets began to mount a counterattack. No amount of Tesla coils, however, could dislodge the Finns from Karelia, which they held tenaciously, and the Soviets needed the men to fight the Germans. The Nazis were pushed back as far as Ukraine and the Baltic states before the signing of the armistice, and the Soviets were enraged. However, with supplies running low and casualties mounting, the Soviets figured the Baltics and the Ukraine would be reattainable. Despite Roosevelt’s wishes, however, the Soviets would spend most of 1945 to 1947 licking their wounds, and did not declare war on Japan until essentially the last possible moment. The Red Army was prepared, however, and marched into Manchuria and northern China. The Russians met American troops on the Yalu, only taking Sakhalin and the Northern Isles in the Japanese home islands.

The Soviets would spin off their section of occupied China as the Chinese Soviet Republic. When China protested, the Soviets changed their tune; instead, Manchuria was part of the Japanese Empire, and the Soviets had created a new state “representative of its people.” As such, the new state changed its name to the Manchurian Soviet Republic. The Western Allies had no illusions, however, and knew it was a Soviet attempt to try and add China to its sphere of influence. When Mao’s government in Manchuria declared war on the Republic of China, the US, UK and France intervened. Many in modern times just how close the US and USSR came to war over the Manchurian incident, but cooler heads prevailed. Relations would not improve under Stalin’s successor Vyacheslav Molotov, who continually pursued a confrontational attitude towards the West and deadlocked the UN Security Council. Despite Molotov’s confrontational attitude, many of his advisors advocated trying to work with the West, as without its powerful industrial and agricultural regions of Karelia and Ukraine, the USSR would have a hard time striking out on its own. Molotov eventually began to relent in the late 50s, realizing that the US was willing to support communist movements when the alternatives were fascist ones. Cambodia and Laos would overthrow their fascist regimes and establish communist ones with US acquiescence, as would Peru. Molotov would in turn be replaced by relative moderate Nikolai Bulganin in 1964 after Molotov resigned over the Cyprus Missile Crisis, who formalized this policy of working within the UN. Bulganin would focus on Africa as a zone of expansion for Soviet influence, propping up communist and left-nationalist post-colonial governments to act as a counterweight to Axis influence across the Arab world. Bulganin would be replaced by Georgy Zhukov in 1971, who initiated a policy called “de-Stalinization”.

De-Stalinization involved the USSR publically airing and denouncing the crimes committed by Stalin’s regime, including forced famines and so forth. Zhukov intended for the measure to better integrate the USSR into the UN system and boost international cooperation. Zhukov also expanded the Russian military by a huge portion, intending to compete with the West. Though he did not live long, he paved the way for modern Russo-UN relations.

The modern USSR, led by reformer Mikhail Gorbachev, is still a one-party state run by the Communist Party. However, between limited market liberalization, allowing independent candidates to run for the Supreme Soviet and liberalization of the press, it is utterly alien to the state Stalin ran in 1947. Soviet artists lead the avant-garde art movement, and after the “Summer of Love” of 1991, Moscow is renowned as a mecca for the world’s libertines. Russia is also experiencing a raw materials boom that is reversing an economic slump earlier in the decade. However, Russia has its problems as well. Its military is aging, and many worry about its ability to keep up with the latest round of German naval buildups. There is also increased division within the Communist Party, as moderates willing to share the role of “world policemen” with the US and China after the defeat of fascism clash with hardliners who think it is time for Russia to make her own way in the world - to make the bear arise from her slumber.

((Расцветали яблони и груши,
Поплыли туманы над рекой;
Выходила на берег Катюша,
На высокий берег, на крутой...))
 

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OSS WORLD FACTBOOK
COUNTRY PROFILE: ANTARCTIC REICH

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Official Name: Großdeutsches Reich
Short Form: Antarctic Reich, Antarctica, Nazi Antarctica
Capital: Germania, Wilhelmsland, Antarctica
Fuhrer: Joseph Himmler
Government: Single-party totalitarian national socialist state under the Nazi Party


The Antarctic Reich is something of an accident of history, but is the most dangerous nation on the planet to both the UN and the Axis. After Operation Valkyrie succeeded and made peace with the Allies, the military government was unsure of what to do about the SS and the Nazi infrastructure. The Nazis wanted to continue the war, and quickly trotted out rhetoric that the military had “stabbed them in the back” and was infiltrated by Jews, communists, homosexuals, bankers, Romani and all the other groups they usually blamed for their ills. Fearing a counter-coup, the military regime quickly moved to purge the SS and any party officials who would not toe the line and accept peace with the Allies. The German Civil War lasted for most of 1945, and while both the military regime and the UN feared a Nazi victory, they never really had a chance. The Wehrmacht had most of the skilled commanders to their name, and ever since the Nazis purged the SA, they had little in the way of numbers to overcome their disadvantages in leadership. Berlin was back under Wehrmacht control by December 1945, though the regime had shaky control of many of its void bombs and other wunderwaffen.


The ensuing Nuremburg Trials, in which the military government purged the remaining Nazi elements of the regime, slated the Nazi ringleaders Heinrich Himmler, Josef Menegle and Joseph Goebbels for execution. However, the three men had friends in low places, and before they could be executed staged a daring escape. They used the remaining Nazi cadres to take everything that wasn’t nailed down, from gold to superweapons, and flee the country. They first fled to Mexico, then to Colombia, and then to Argentina, where the three would live off their ill-gotten fortunes until 1949. However, after an Israeli Nazi hunter came close to assassinating them by blowing up their apartment building in downtown Buenos Aires, paranoia overtook the three, Himmler in particular. It was decided that the chief Nazis would have to escape to a place where no one could find them: Antarctica.


Using Sentinels that they personally piloted, the three men took over a German research in an area of Antarctica called Wilhelmsland. This particular station was filled to the brim with forgotten German secret projects, from exotic energy generators to biological “recycling and reprocessing” techniques. Himmler, who had quickly made himself leader and dictator of Wilhelmsland Station, began to come up with a plan: using sympathetic elements in Germany and across the world, the Aryan dream would be resurrected on the frozen continent. Thus, the so-called Antarctic Reich was born.


Utilizing criminal gangs around the world, men and women who met the Aryan ideal were brought, either willingly or by force, to Wilhelmsland (now renamed Germania.) Taking advantage of post-Civil War Germany’s general state of confusion, gold reserves, megatanks, and even a few void bombs were absconded with and brought to Antarctica. Utilizing the station’s rudimentary AI, the Interior Ministry under Reinhard Heydrich created a mechanical labor force to supplement the Antarctic Reich’s miniscule population. Preliminary genetic engineering was undertaken to turn select subjects of the Reich into “embodiments of Aryan manhood.” Himmler’s miniscule empire was quickly arming itself on the backs of robot and slave labor into creating a huge arsenal of void bombs and other weaponry, nurturing a fledgling state able to stand on its own. New settlements were built outside Wilhelmsland Station (now renamed Germania) to accomodate the greater population. Fishing boats were sent out to supplement the Reich’s main diet of “Aryan Soylent.” The Third Reich would continue to expand right under the noses of both the UN and the Axis.


The Antarctic Reich would only be rediscovered in 1965, as a British ship fighting in the Falklands War that became lost at sea was forced to come to the Antarctic shore to seek help. The sailors could at first not believe what they were seeing - steel monstrosities of buildings belching smoke and flying the Nazi flag. But there they were, and when the news broke it took the world by storm. It was too ludicrous to be true, said many. And yet, as American spy planes confirmed, there they were. The world quickly considered what form of action to take; surely such an abomination could not be let stand.


Himmler, firmly entrenched in power by this point, made several moves. He appealed to the German regime for sympathy, which gave him a lukewarm response; while the military regime had still banned the Nazi Party and was still very anti-Nazi, sympathetic elements remained in various levels of the government, and some pragmatists recognized the value of having such settlements - which also sat on a great deal of oil - in the Axis camp. The regime was noncommital, but gave vague assurances about preventing a unilateral move from the UN. The British and French advocated a quick strike, but when the Reich detonated a void bomb off the coast as a demonstration, the UN began to second guess their ability to decapitate the regime. After all, how dangerous could a few thousand loons possibly be, even if they had some weird robots?


The so-called Greater German Reich survived, by hook and crook, the death of its first Fuhrer in 1977. As people, both clones and organic, grew up knowing nothing but harsh Antarctic life, Himmler and his cronies had imposed a distorted view of reality across the Reich. Himmler, after his death, was installed as the “Eternal Fuhrer,” and the pagan state cults claimed he was an embodiment of the Aryan ideal and even able to control the weather. His sons have controlled the regime ever since, but which son has varied; unliked occupants of the top office are often assassinated by other top families and placed with a more amenable candidate (of course, from within the Himmler family.) Hitler was elevated further, taken from being a leader to a literal god, depicted as a blond-haired, blue-eyed musclebound superman as often as his actual appearance. He was claimed to be an avatar of Odin, able to influence time and space and ensure the future victory of the Aryan race. The state-sponsored, “Positive Christian” church equated Jesus with both Hitler and Odin, implying them all to be reincarnations of the same being, and taught a social darwinist ideology bearing little resemblance to any Christian denomination in the rest of the world. Escape to the outside world is strictly forbidden. Women are kept barefoot and pregnant as long as they are fertile, but even that cannot create enough of an acceptably Aryan population, and so cloning is also widely used. The Antarctic Reich is, with a great deal of justification, described as “the most oppressive and tyrannical society in human history.”


The Reich, armed to the teeth with terrifying mecha, void bombs and laser cannons, is growing restless. The leadership, having grown up in Antarctica for the most part, is beginning to believe its own propaganda about the inevitable destiny of the so-called “master race.” Having used its mad science to establish working facilities on the Moon, the Nazis have plumbed the depths of quantum physics to develop terrifying new weaponry. Project Valhalla, whatever it may be, is rumored to be a device that could shake the world to its core. Antarctica, a land famed for the world’s longest winter, may yet chill the Earth to the bone.
 

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Did Pablo Escobar survive in this timeline? The start date is certainly within the Colombian Drug War's scope, and a rogue Narco-state Colombia might be neat.
 
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Did Pablo Escobar survive in this timeline? The start date is certainly within the Colombian Drug War's scope, and a rogue Narco-state Colombia might be neat.

Hm... Yeah, sure, why not? Might spice things up a bit.

Also, I'm going to explain how signups are gonna work (they ARE NOT starting yet, there will be a separate thread for that):

Everyone will pick their top three choices for Great Powers (including the Antarctic Reich and Manchuria), along with three minor powers (any non-Great Powers) as backup choices. I will pick the Great Powers first at my discretion, and then select three minor powers for each side, leaving a total of 18 players. If you specifically want to be a minor power, you can simply not select any GPs. As compensation for not having a shot at the Great Powers, this will significantly increase your odds at getting a minor power. Be warned that I may ask you to play as a Great Power if any of those slots are unfilled when signups are concluded.

You can pick absolutely any nation not in the GPs as a minor power choice, and if I pick you that nation will be included. Picking a nation with some ability to influence world affairs would be nice for both the players and myself, but if you're absolutely dying to play Luxembourg, go ahead. If you want information on any of the minor powers (they won't be getting country profiles, except maybe Japan and Israel), hit me up via PM or IRC. Almost everyone should get their first choice; I will roll for who gets what country if there is a conflict.

One final note: the term "great power" is relative, and some so-called "minor powers" still wield quite a bit of influence on the world stage. For example, Japan, a so-called "minor power," has a much stronger economy and world influence than Spain, one of the "great powers." So don't be afraid of getting a minor power if you don't get your first choice of GPs.

Please contact me via PM or IRC with any other questions.
 
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A thought, maybe the Antarctic Reich'so eugenics program has gotten to the point of using 'iron wombs' to grow test tube babies, then raising them in a quasi spartan manner to weed out the weak. Something like the Clans in Battletech.

On technology, Dieselpunk usually implies vacuum tubeso and computers the size of buildings with names ending in -iac. Are we to assume something like that?
 

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So when can we expect this to start? I got my zoot suit, Tommy gun, and jetpack out of storage.
 

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It would be nice to have links to the posts containing the factbook entries in the original post.