Inter Warring during Crusade

[RhaegarTelcontarTargaryen]

This might not be the best place to post this, as it might be the vanilla problem, but I am playing with HIP, so I am much more interested in solution for HIP.

I had a very strange bug, playing as a duke in France, I went on a crusade for Egypt. While in Egypt, King of England declares war on King of France. In a previous save it also made King of France declare war on Aragon.

But the problem is, my troops in Egypt were automatically attacked by the troops of some Duke from England, who was also one of the many crusaders. Not only it caused the two armies to fight, it set the whole stack one against the other. So in the end I and many other crusaders were fighting against the pope and other crusaders because of war in Europe.

Obviously, should not happened, is not WAD, and I guess declaring war on a fellow catholic while his armies are on a crusade should have serious repercussions from the pope and the rest of the catholic world (automatic excommunication for instance..)

I can provide saved game, and the rest if needed.

 

[IAmNotAmused]

Personally, I love the idea of a crusade (or the defense of one) falling apart because of intra army fighting. Yeah, it should probably come with a heavy malus from the pope (ruined my war -70) which should make excommunication likely but not guaranteed.

 

[RhaegarTelcontarTargaryen]

I am not against such a mechanic, that is a good idea, and in fact I like it, it could create tensions even battles and clashes, like tensions between Phillipe and Richard in the Third Crusade..

However, this is clearly a bug and not working as it should. Especially since the game perceived one allied army fighting against the other, when only 3-4k troops (both armies were roughly 12k) were actually troops from countries at war ie England and France. Makes no sense that Duke of Dalmatia fights against King of Aragon or Papal soldiers, when they are allies in a crusade.

As I said, I guess it is a vanilla thing, not sure. It would also be good to see some mechanic where you are threatened with excommunication or excommunicated, negative church opinion, etc, if you attack a ruler who is currently on a Crusade. I guess the Pope, and fellow Crusaders, would not look favorably upon you if you DOW King of Sicily when he sends all his troops to the Holy Land upon Pope's request for a crusade.