Installed father in Arabian Empire... won't accept alliance?!

[TehJumpingJawa]

I'm a reformed Romuva Feudal King of Lithuania (plus a whole lot more).

- I pushed my father's claim on the Arabian Empire.
- He loves me (100 opinion)
- He is Romuva, same as me. (I force-converted him from Tengri)
- I'm his heir.
- His demesne strength is 0 men.
- His vassals hate him.
- Our borders are miles away (either side of the Byzantium Empire); neither me, nor him, should have any intention of attacking one-another.

Why on Earth wouldn't he want an alliance with his Son, and heir, who is able, and strongly motivated to defend his title from any internal threats?

He won't even accept a non-aggression pact fgs?!?!

Opinion of King Dausprungas: ++++++++++
Political concerns: --------
Base Reluctance: ---

Shouldn't there be some sensible modifiers like:

My son: ++++++++++
My heir: ++++++++++

 

[Rationalsanity]

The Political Concern factor is acting as a hard block. Does he have claims on your lands? Or do you have claims on his stuff?

 

[TehJumpingJawa]

The Political Concern factor is acting as a hard block. Does he have claims on your lands? Or do you have claims on his stuff?

Nope on both counts.

He's now (predictably) facing a massive uprising, and STILL he won't accept a NAP or alliance

 

[Rationalsanity]

Huh, maybe its a stupid thing where you are too big and the AI doesn't want you to grow anymore. Doesn't make sense but I'm at a loss here.

If he does get overthrown, he'll at least get a strong claim on the titles he lost, that will pass to you when he dies.

 

[TehJumpingJawa]

Well a few months pass, he fabricates a claim on a random county owned by a revolting vassal, and NOW he decides an alliance would be a good idea.

AI 'Political concerns'; A riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

 

[Rationalsanity]

AI 'Political concerns'; A riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

Pretty much.

 

[hwoosh]

You'd think Paradox would have learned to do better about inscrutable modifiers when the *exact same case* in EU4 ("Strategic concerns -1000", for military access) was eliminated and replaced with something parseable many, many patches ago.

 

[masteriw]

Actually I like the idea of hard blocks, but they have to get it right...

 

[TehJumpingJawa]

Actually I like the idea of hard blocks, but they have to get it right...

Are there still hard blocks in ck2?
I understand "- - - - -" used to be a blocker no matter how many positive you had, but now the various modifiers have much larger ranges, and I'm pretty sure i've seen "----------" (-10) be overridden by +ive modifiers (for instance marriage to infidels is now no-longer an impossible action)

In this instance, it didn't look like a hard block; simply that 10 - 13 < 0.

 

[hwoosh]

Actually I like the idea of hard blocks, but they have to get it right...

Hard blocks can be appropriate in the right situation, but they should always be communicated clearly. The player should never have to guess what conditions are creating the block.