initial options for spain

[Rauko]

Hi.
Starting as spain, after dealing with carlist I switched to reactionaries for the state capitalism thing, and built some factories to start developing a good industry. Is it too soon for that?
and about my army, where should I throw it to show my reactionary jingoism? Portugal or morocco seem the logical choice, but portugal is now alied with austria (if they ever broke the alliance, I will for sure invade portugal) and morocco looks easy military, but some grain provinces with low population and low literacy dont look rewarding. Is it really worth?

 

[ktk1212]

Morocco has gold, which is always valuable. Algiers also has some nice resources. Otherwise, you probably want to eat up or sphere the east asian countries for all their resources that come in handy later. Maybe Saudi Arabia as well for the oil they get.

 

[Carolingian]

South America. It's worth it.

 

[Baron Bailey]

South America. It's worth it.

I would certainly go for Panama for the prestige bonus of eventually building the canal. And why not a bit of Reconquista throughout South America too by chipping into Colombia, Venezuela and Argentina.

 

[spiller68]

go for morroco and then if you are up for it go for Columbia for panama from there you can expand northwards and southwards i did the same thing in my AAR.

 

[Owl Raider]

Assuming you aim to colonize the majority of Africa you first want to deny your fellow European nations from African territories to limit their naval bases and colonial range. Therefore Tunis and Algeria are the main priorities as they usually get gobbled up by the Ottomans and France respectively. Morocco should follow soon thereafter, the good parts of it anyway as if you beat France to Algeria they'd likely try to take Morocco. Afterwards burn off that infamy and focus the rest of your efforts in Asia, you can either go for Korea+Chinese provinces to help develop your early industry or go for Burma, Siam, Dai Nam and Cambodia to monopolize rubber for a superior late game industry that nobody else will be able to compete with. The rest of the rubber is in the Niger Delta which is the first province you should colonize in Africa(you have range since you own Fernando Po which is right underneath it) and in Brazil which you should sphere, along with the rest of South America for that matter though Brazil is the top priority.

 

[Maggix]

South America. It's worth it.

No it's not.

 

[Rauko]

Well, Im late to stop france in algiers...
I finally went for johore and another one estate minor, west of johore. Also sphered siam, and my next influence goal is south america ( starting by brazil). SA seems logical for spain, anF starting cordial is a bonus, but the -50% hit for being in other continent hurts.
I will probably invade morocco, and about portugal, if they break their alliance with austria I will attack them, else I can try and SoI (I would like to have all those portuguese guys as tax payers, but if it is impossible, it will be nice to have them as customers)

 

[Will Steel]

No it's not.

It is, for the large late-game rubber producing areas and lots of profit that might be made with it.

 

[Owl Raider]

It is, for the large late-game rubber producing areas and lots of profit that might be made with it.

It's worth sphering for these reasons, not conquering. Since all those nations are civilized conquering them costs a ton of infamy, for relatively little reward. Far from a worthwhile endeavor.

 

[Maggix]

It is, for the large late-game rubber producing areas and lots of profit that might be made with it.

You can get 5 times as much rubber by taking Nigeria and the Congo. Infamy free.

 

[Rauko]

You can get 5 times as much rubber by taking Nigeria and the Congo. Infamy free.

I'll try both
SoI SA and colonize congo.
I finally decided not to go after morocco. In my game they have no gold!

 

[Jacobi-99]

It's worth sphering for these reasons, not conquering. Since all those nations are civilized conquering them costs a ton of infamy, for relatively little reward. Far from a worthwhile endeavor.

But it also means that people from your states can't immigrate their instead go to say the USA instead of staying your own country

 

[Rauko]

But it also means that people from your states can't immigrate their instead go to say the USA instead of staying your own country

i am new here, so probably i am doing a big mistake, but being spain so scarcely populated I dont want a big inmigration out of my cores. Am I wrong?

 

[Gnorf]

i am new here, so probably i am doing a big mistake, but being spain so scarcely populated I dont want a big inmigration out of my cores. Am I wrong?

Keep militancy and unemployment low.

 

[Rauko]

Keep militancy and unemployment low.

sorry, I feel a bit retarded, but it is a new game, and my knowledge of english doesnt help... that is the recipe to atract people from outside spain to spain?
It is 1846, and I have now around 12 factories, but almost all of them have very few employees, and so they have tiny benefits. what should be the best way to get more craftmen and clerks? I see all other powers and some secondary powers increasing a lot their industrial score, and I am unable to do so.

 

[Gnorf]

sorry, I feel a bit retarded, but it is a new game, and my knowledge of english doesnt help... that is the recipe to atract people from outside spain to spain?
It is 1846, and I have now around 12 factories, but almost all of them have very few employees, and so they have tiny benefits. what should be the best way to get more craftmen and clerks? I see all other powers and some secondary powers increasing a lot their industrial score, and I am unable to do so.

That's how to decrease emigration. You will get almost no immigration if you're not in the Americas or Oceania. Literacy is the most important to get more craftsmen and clerks. 30 literacy is a good threshold to start industrializing. Industrial score is only calculated from total amount of pops working in factories however, so you'll rarely get a high industrial score if you're sparsely populated.

 

[Jacobi-99]

i am new here, so probably i am doing a big mistake, but being spain so scarcely populated I dont want a big inmigration out of my cores. Am I wrong?

You're right but people are going to move no matter what when at war, if you have provinces in SA they will move their and then you will have a bigger spread of Spainish people

 

[Gnorf]

You're right but people are going to move no matter what when at war, if you have provinces in SA they will move their and then you will have a bigger spread of Spainish people

When migrating the pops first choose a target country then a target province. Taking provinces in the Americas doesn't change your migration unless your capital is over there.

 

[Jacobi-99]

When migrating the pops first choose a target country then a target province. Taking provinces in the Americas doesn't change your migration unless your capital is over there.

I mean of your country îs occupied your pops imagrate internationally and to non occupied parts of your country, they would move to SAY because it more then likely wouldn't be targeted