Inheritance through dynasty members

[I_Claudius]

I am currently playing as the Emperor of Hispania. My second son is married to the Queen of Sweden and the third son to the Queen of Denmark in non-matrilineal marriages so their respective sons (my grandsons) are the heirs to those kingdoms. Upon the death of those two queens, will those realms become part of my empire since they belong to my dynasty? If not, why?

(My empire and their kingdoms all have Agnatic-Cognatic Primogeniture succession. The latest update I have is Way of Life).

 

[Gwyn ap Nud]

No, unless, I believe, those sons/grandsons are already landed nobles in your empire. If they're landless and sitting in the courts of their queens when they inherit, they will simply become independent states. That'd only work if a) your sons are your vassals b) your sons die before their wives, and thus the grandsons are your vassals, and c) the same grandson inherits both the fathers and the mothers' titles.

 

[Sirrobert1]

It will not, unless you land the respective heirs in your empire (as close family, they will still be allies).
Alternatively, once the inheritance happens, your grandson's brothers will have a strong claim. You can invite them and press their claim. Since they are off your dynasty, they will then become your vassal.

 

[Naughtius Maximus]

Just be aware if you do not intend get titles into your empire through inheritance.

The inheretor takes the highest title as his primary title. IF that primary title is your vassal they remain your vassal. If the primary title is not under you they will TAKE YOUR LAND WITH THEM.

Basically if you want to gain land through inheritance you will need that heir to possess an equal tier or higher title. That way the title they inheiret will be the secondary title and will not make them independent.

In this case you will need to make your two inhereiting grandchildren kings sometime before they become king of sweden or denmark.

Or you can invite their sibling and press claims to skip this rather steep requirement. But I myself dislike warring with my own kin, let alone my grandchild.

 

[Sergeant Flutter]

No, but your dynasty will rule within them. Unless they have Elective succession. That complicates things.

 

[Naughtius Maximus]

You could switch your empire to elective and vote for them, though they are unlikely to win.

You could switch your inheritance to seniority and you will be guaranteed to acquire them eventually. Eventually.

 

[hagagaga]

You could switch your inheritance to seniority and you will be guaranteed to acquire them eventually. Eventually.

After a series of assassinations.

 

[Sirrobert1]

After a series of assassinations.

Or just patience. I never do that many assassinations. If I have a chain ready to give me land 2 generations from now, I'll just wait.
The only time in recent play that I killed someone like that was a big child duke that hated my guts (culture/religion) in my Kingdom, with me as heir.

 

[I_Claudius]

Thanks for the help. Solved the Swedish issue by pressing the claim of the queen's bastard brother who happened to be from my dynasty. The Danish crown seems unwinnable at the moment.

A few further questions about the succession issue. If I were somehow able to confer say, the Kingdom of Portugal, to the heir of Denmark, would his becoming a part of my empire depend on which kingdom he adopted as his primary title? And is there any way to influence that?