Inheritance didn't work as I expected...

[Nateon]

I decided to press a claim on the kingdom of Leon from a count's wife in my empire (I'm Britannia). She wasn't my vassal or in my dynasty, she was only the wife of one of my vassals. However, her son was either my half-brother or my uncle (can't remember, either way he was part of my dynasty and was also my vassal).

I figured I would press the lady's claim for Leon and then once she got it, assassinate her so my dynasty member could get control, and then absorb Leon into my Empire. It didn't work out that way, unfortnuately. After my vassal+dynasty member took control, Leon remained independent. Worst of all, the territory he owned in Britannia would be absorbed by the kingdom of Leon on succession!

How did this happen? I assumed that territory your vassal receives on inheritance becomes part of your kingdom. He was in my dynasty too! Even though Leon is a kingdom, I was in control of an empire. I thought I was being clever in pressing the claim and then killing the claimant afterwards so my vassal could take control.

The succession laws and inheritance laws confuse the Hell out of me sometimes.

 

[Prime624]

I didn't take the time to read all of what you wrote, so correct me if I'm wrong.

If your vassal (count, let's say) inherits a better title (duke, king), he will leave your realm even if you are emperor.

I've heard places that if they are in your dynasty then they will stay in your realm, but this is not true in my (and your) experience.\

CORRECTION: I think I remember now that only de jure land from your dynasty members will stay in your realm.

 

[Yenzen]

The claimant you push MUST at the time you push the claim:

- Be of a lesser than your current under any circumstances unless you stand to inherit what you push (you can push for your father and then inherit) or you are the claimant
- Be your landed vassal OR dynastic member OR the title you push must belong to you de-jure (Byzantine emperor pushing some random courtiers claim on athens for example)

You have some choices:

- Admit defeat, revoke the vassal before the land passes out of your realm.
- Switch to elective and elect your half-brother/uncle/half-brother-uncle!
- Get CA to high and revent the land from going out of your realm, at least.

 

[Zireael]

If your vassal (count, let's say) inherits a better title (duke, king), he will leave your realm even if you are emperor.

I've heard places that if they are in your dynasty then they will stay in your realm, but this is not true in my (and your) experience.\

This makes no sense if you have High Crown Authority.

 

[perpetualmuse]

I figured I would press the lady's claim for Leon and then once she got it, assassinate her so my dynasty member could get control, and then absorb Leon into my Empire. It didn't work out that way, unfortnuately. After my vassal+dynasty member took control, Leon remained independent. Worst of all, the territory he owned in Britannia would be absorbed by the kingdom of Leon on succession!

How did this happen? I assumed that territory your vassal receives on inheritance becomes part of your kingdom. He was in my dynasty too! Even though Leon is a kingdom, I was in control of an empire. I thought I was being clever in pressing the claim and then killing the claimant afterwards so my vassal could take control.

When your dynasty member inherited Leon he became independent because he's inheriting a higher title that is already independent. The reasoning for this is that once he inherits, his primary title is going to change to King of Leon and the Kingdom of Leon has no liege, so his primary title is independent and he becomes independent. To keep him as your vassal, you'd have to have given him a kingdom prior to letting him inherit, so that his primary title doesn't change on inheriting.