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VPN with steam isn't really a good idea. It's against their TOA. Not saying they will but if they catch you they might ban your account. not something I would personally risk considering that I have quite a few hundred Euros worth of games on that account.

Well, than its possible to activate the game on your netbook outside of Germany? maybe in the next city to the border? i'm from saarbrücken, france is just 20 minutes away....
 
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Its gets even funnier - there is no information about that in the paradox store ... so they dont only, dont want us as customers, they obviously want to deceive us.
it was just discovered end of day. look at the dev posts in this thread
 

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it was just discovered end of day. look at the dev posts in this thread

You discovered your own game just at the end of the day? Do you really think we believe this?
Its your shop - your game - your dicisions you made (and I bet not just today).
 
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Well, than its possible to activate the game on your netbook outside of Germany? maybe in the next city to the border? i'm from saarbrücken, france is just 20 minutes away....

But what if u get Problems when u try to start the game back in germany. Or after some patches or DLCs?

The better option (sry paradox) is, to cancel the pre-order from paradoxplaza and buy the game on steam.
If I understand the last posts correct, steam sell the German version to the German customers
 
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You discovered your own game just at the end of the day? Do you really think we believe this?
Its your shop - your game - your dicisions you made (and I bet not just today).
I am a moderator (in the US) not a dev, again look at the dev replies for this thread about what transpired when. I am sure it will be rectified.
 
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D-day 1944
D-day 2016

Never forget!


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Many Germans will be confused.
Why Sweden, why? We Germans are absolut friendly, stop finally the imbargo :)
 
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I am a moderator (in the US) not a dev, again look at the dev replies for this thread about what transpired when. I am sure it will be rectified.

You defended it - iam sorry, but it dosn't changed the fact, Paradox did what they did here.
 
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I thought about this for a while. I am german. I want a picture of every person of importance to WWII in the game. I want every flag that was used in the game.
But it is not so. So what ? I thought to myself: Get over it. How often do You look at the stupid mustache during Your game ? Are not my troops more important
to look at ? This picture is 0.0002 % of the game at best. Shit on it. And seriously: Cancel Preorder / not buying because of this ? Childish. I moved on and
will play on the 6th. Perhaps some should put this into perspective and really reconsider...
 
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Its gets even funnier - there is no information about that in the paradox store ... so they dont only, dont want us as customers, they obviously want to deceive us.

No, I wouldn't say that. They messed up quite a bit. I mean if you release a cut version for Germany (unnecessary as it might be) then you need to plan this properly and forward the information to your potential customers. It is just incompetence in this part and they should apologise to every German customer with maybe a free DLC or so. I mean it is at least a bit inconvenient to ask for a refund and then buying it again. Should not happen and deserves compensation.

I speculate that the German market is one of their biggest worldwide in terms of sales so creating a problem for your purchasing customers is obviously not good. They wanted to avoid problems with the german jurisdiction but only created another problem now. That they now technically break EU law is what makes this situation so absurd.

They should know better not to anger the Germans. Have you learned nothing from history Paradox? (I am joking, still love your games).
 
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I thought about this for a while. I am german. I want a picture of every person of importance to WWII in the game. I want every flag that was used in the game.
But it is not so. So what ? I thought to myself: Get over it. How often do You look at the stupid mustache during Your game ? Are not my troops more important
to look at ? This picture is 0.0002 % of the game at best. Shit on it. And seriously: Cancel Preorder / not buying because of this ? Childish. I moved on and
will play on the 6th. Perhaps some should put this into perspective and really reconsider...

A man without principles. I pity the fool...
 
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No, I wouldn't say that. They messed up quite a bit. I mean if you release a cut version for Germany (unnecessary as it might be) then you need to plan this properly and forward the information to your potential customers. It is just incompetence in this part and they should apologise to every German customer with maybe a free DLC or so. I mean it is at least a bit inconvenient to ask for a refund and then buying it again. Should not happen and deserves compensation.

I speculate that the German market is one of their biggest worldwide in terms of sales so creating a problem for your purchasing customers is obviously not good. They wanted to avoid problems with the german jurisdiction but only created another problem now. That they now technically break EU law is what makes this situation so absurd.

They should know better not to anger the Germans. Have you learned nothing from history Paradox? (I am joking, still love your games).

You are right! They just startet last week to make the game and now there was not enough time to think a little bit about how to sell it and tell the german customers they are not wished to buy the game. Iam sorry!
 
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A friend did buy me the game from gmg.
And i did activated it without any problems.

Means that i am safe with that version, whatever it is? Or could it be that i cant start it? ^^

You defended it - iam sorry, but it dosn't changed the fact, Paradox did what they did here.

What is your problem? Just wait until they had a chance to react.
You know, humans do mistakes. And maybe this is just a wrong information.
So just let them 2,3 days and they will give out informations.

I thought about this for a while. I am german. I want a picture of every person of importance to WWII in the game. I want every flag that was used in the game.
But it is not so. So what ? I thought to myself: Get over it. How often do You look at the stupid mustache during Your game ? Are not my troops more important
to look at ? This picture is 0.0002 % of the game at best. Shit on it. And seriously: Cancel Preorder / not buying because of this ? Childish. I moved on and
will play on the 6th. Perhaps some should put this into perspective and really reconsider...

+ week one mod who change it to international standarts. If not on steam than on moddb or somwhere else. ;)
But i guess most people who going mad in this thread are just like to doing it.
 
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I am a moderator (in the US) not a dev, again look at the dev replies for this thread about what transpired when. I am sure it will be rectified.
Well we do know that most games censored in germany are not geoblocked by steam. So it is something that Publishers explicitly request, rather than something that happens by default without their knowledge. So Paradox should know all about it.
 
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All that drama is actually quiet funny from the outside. Good that i live in Austria. No problem with this shit. And to all who are going ape shit about this, they already said they will refund wrong versions so that you can buy the "right" versions. And for the 10th time, not the checksum isn´t effected and you can play with all other people around the world.
 
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That only holds true if you buy something via VPN (for example to exploit lower prices on steam directly). I unlocked tons of games via VPN (for example if the release was earlier in asia or NA) and tons of people do that alle the time. If you don't buy the international key ON Steam via VPN, there shouldn't be any problems at all.

Also locking you out of hundreds of Euros worth for one thing that hasn't anything to do with the other games, would be a very risky and probably illegal move by Steam and I have never heard of any case like that.
I don't have the quote at hand right now but as far as I remember it was forbidden by steam to use vpn to get games at other regional prices and to use it to activate products not permited in your country.
 

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The Hearts of Iron IV forum is not the place to discuss / debate German law.

I know some people are concerned / very interested about the issue of the German vs the International versions of the game and I will see if we cannot get a FAQ of all we know.

The thread has been closed for now as people just cannot seem to follow simple instructions of the thread. As there isn't any chance of any new information until tomorrow, and I really don't want to continue issuing infractions for those that could not follow the request in the OP.

I tried to keep it open but time and time again people couldn't refrain.
 
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