Do we have any information (dev diary) about the crusade because i read every DD and i don't remember to see one about crusade
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From what we know, Crusades will take on the same system as Holy Fury with a lot of the things carrying over.
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Not exactly, there were previews that showed the money and piety getting distributed when the war *started*, and those mechanics have been extended to all great holy war religions as I understand it.
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Side note: I also saw, either in a Q&A or one of the diaries, don't remember which... that non-Christian Holy Wars will also have the more expanded mechanics, akin to Holy Fury's.
Honestly, I wish they hadn't taken that design choice. The game is called Crusader Kings. Crusades and Jihads should feel special to show off their heavy conflict during the period. Having all religions being able to do Holy Wars just feels... off to me. Does anyone else feel that way?
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Not every religion can, though, just faiths that have a tenet allowing it.
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No, because the name doesn’t determine the games content.
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this is only slightly less annoying than the people who complain about non-European countries getting major content updates in EU4.
Yes, it's called Crusader Kings.
No, that doesn't imply that other religions' mechanics for large-scale cooperative invasions of heathen polities should be less fleshed-out than Roman Catholic Christianity's Crusade mechanics.
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Oh ok. I thought otherwise. Makes sense. They've only brought it up a couple of times in the DD's so I wasn't sure on it.
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Crusader is in the name of the game but more people seem to consider sleeping with their siblings and murdering children (in game) to be more important thats all I got to say about that. The system in holy fury isn't bad but it needs some damn tweaks! Its way to overpowered it makes the crusades unenjoyable , make a certain amount of slots available for the crusades based off moral authority a certain amount per rank of noble and those filling them based off army strength and relations to the pope this definitely would make you wanna keep good relations with the pope more so then ck 2 possibly?
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It is called Crusader Kings because of its previous versions. The game overgrew its own name with so many CK2 DLCs.
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Try to aply the name is game rule on other games. Starcraft. A game to craft stars. Black & White. A Paint with only 2 colors. Heroes of the Storm. A game to battle storms. Gothic, a medieval architecutre simulator. Crusader Kings. A game where you only blay kings of crusader states.
These are just names, a brand. Nothing more. The name should not micromanage every detail of a game.
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You're right that the name of this game is based on it's predecessors and should not limit its scope. But for the games you mention, you're basically choosing your own meanings for the names and then saying that's why they are good examples of why you're right. I am pretty certain that each of those other games were named those things for a reason relating to the game. I forget B&W, though I played it for a short time when it first came out, but it's likely that the main story had something to do with choices or with good and bad (aka black and white), so the name is a valid description of what the game is about. Starcraft's name was based on Warcraft's name to maintain a connection between the two in people minds. Heroes of the Storm would have been about heroes during a major upheaval or whatever (I forget the exact details on that one) and a storm is often used as an "artistic" or "creative" synonym for such events. And so on.
You can't make your own meanings of various game titles and use that to "prove" that game titles don't mean anything.
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While I don't want to use the dreaded 'name argument'. I would say that the fact that the name is called Crusader Kings and yet the crusade and jihad mechanic is so abysmal is quite sad and I hope the devs will eventually get around to fixing it.
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The game is called Crusader Kings. Why do emperors get to rule over kings even though they are not even in the title of the game?
Seriously though, maybe there could be some minor tweaks to the holy fury model of crusades depending on the religion. For example, all religions get the piety and cash reward and the benefactor mechanic, but some religions get the crusader state mechanic of catholicism on top, other religions convert half the won territory to the winning faith instantly, others get the new crusader kingdom as their tributary for a generation, etc.
I just made these mechanics up without really thinking about it. Paradox can probably do better. But the holy fury crusades can certainly be customized a bit.
Also, I appreciate that the fleshed out crusade mechanics will be opened up for the other religions, because the pre-HF crusade mechanic of just jointly declaring war for one kingdom felt a bit boring towards the end of CK2s development cycle.
Seriously though, maybe there could be some minor tweaks to the holy fury model of crusades depending on the religion. For example, all religions get the piety and cash reward and the benefactor mechanic, but some religions get the crusader state mechanic of catholicism on top, other religions convert half the won territory to the winning faith instantly, others get the new crusader kingdom as their tributary for a generation, etc.
I just made these mechanics up without really thinking about it. Paradox can probably do better. But the holy fury crusades can certainly be customized a bit.
Also, I appreciate that the fleshed out crusade mechanics will be opened up for the other religions, because the pre-HF crusade mechanic of just jointly declaring war for one kingdom felt a bit boring towards the end of CK2s development cycle.
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