Infinite war - no way to peace out

[AurochsAway]

I've run into a problem with my Spain ironman run. A very odd problem. I, as Spain, had a large CN in the Eastern USA, the one that defaults to Florida as a name. Florida was doing its CN thing, and made protectorates over the Huron and the Illiniwek. It was also allied to both somehow, in addition to the protectorates.

I had a claim on Huron, and declared war on them, assuming that my subject CN wouldn't join against me. However, Florida did join against me, and became the war leader brining in Illiniwek. That's a bug, but it's not the real problem. The problem is, there is no way I can peace out of this war. I can't right-click the war icon, and the peace option in the diplomacy menu are greyed out (most importantly Florida who is the war leader). I can't think of what's causing this, any ideas?

Warscreen:

Florida: "You can not negotiate a separate peace with someone who is a former subject of the defender" -> Never seen this before, and that seems to imply I'm the defender against myself?

Illiniwek: "A vassal or lesser partner in a union can not sign a separate peace treaty" -> Makes sense, although the tooltip needs updating if it included protectorates.

Huron: Same as Illiniwek + the standard can't negotiate with wartarget.

 

[delpiero1234]

Oh dear god.. Paradox really screwed things up again.

 

[Brainblow]

Come to think of it, while not directly affecting my own Iroquis game, several colonial nations under Great Britain seem to have been at war with Portugal and its Colonial nations forever now.
Might be the same bug.

 

[Nobak]

You might have a shot at ending the war via the auto white peace, but I'm not certain. You'd probably have to occupy everything to prevent anything from refreshing the timer, and I don't know if occupations prevent the auto white peace from firing. I also don't know if the rebels that will inevitably spawn can reset the timer, or whether fighting them can, and I assume call for peace will drive your WE through the roof regardless.

Looks like a pretty bad situation; hopefully someone else can think of something.

 

[Great One]

What is an auto white peace? I've never heard of this before.

 

[Kombatdoctr]

The same thing happened to me yesterday, I ended up loading an earlier save and just annexing (via command console) the OPM my idiotic colonial nation had protectorated.

They really need to remove the ability to make protectorates and vassals from colonial nations.

 

[Sairoh]

I had something similar happen. Evenually one of the AIs will offer white peace. Take it. Submit a bug report and scream bloody murder. This really sucks for Ironman games.

 

[unmerged(807829)]

The same here....

My was a Ironman game with GB

 

[Nobak]

What is an auto white peace? I've never heard of this before.

Auto white peace happens when a war is at a standstill for several years (something like 3 or 5, I don't remember the specifics). I'm not sure exactly what events count as "breaking the standstill", but definitely battles and blockading, probably sieging as well. And as I mentioned, I'm not sure whether an ongoing occupation counts as something.
Anyway, when nothing happens for long enough in a war, it ends in an automatic white peace and the nations involved have no say in the matter.

I had something similar happen. Evenually one of the AIs will offer white peace. Take it. Submit a bug report and scream bloody murder. This really sucks for Ironman games.

I'm surprised, but that's good news. I expected that if you can't negociate with them, then they can't negociate with you.

 

[AnonHobo]

Auto white peace happens when a war is at a standstill for several years (something like 3 or 5, I don't remember the specifics). I'm not sure exactly what events count as "breaking the standstill", but definitely battles and blockading, probably sieging as well. And as I mentioned, I'm not sure whether an ongoing occupation counts as something.
Anyway, when nothing happens for long enough in a war, it ends in an automatic white peace and the nations involved have no say in the matter.



I'm surprised, but that's good news. I expected that if you can't negociate with them, then they can't negociate with you.

This happened to me within 25 provinces of WC. It's a bug.

I have 99% warscore and the AI won't peace out. It is what it is.