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In my norway game on hard I just lost a war pretty badly to Muscovy. They had triple my numbers in cavalry, the 10 k stacks they used for sieges did not take significant attritian even with scorched lands during the summer and their main 20 k army had a manouver 4 or 5 and shock 5 general and could flee back across the border before my forces could engage during winter. Add to this some unlucky terrain bonuses. (Lets defend in the field while 70% of the provinces is forest and they have 12 k cavalry while we have 4 in an equal sized army! yeah!) and things just went sour.

Ok I can handle a loss, I could have kept fighting but that would drag me near bankruptcy for the possibilty of a victory in a few years, better to settle for a peace deal as they attacked with a conquest casus belli and get back at them in 5 years.

In the deal I had to cede Neva (sp?) the province that has st. Petersburg in real life I think, and Peshkov. Neva was their qonquest target, Peskov went for max infamy.... But instead of them getting the infamy, it was me!

TLDR: Why did I get an infamyshot in a defensive war were I lost and ceded territory to the enemy? They should be more infamous, I am thge bloody victim here 0.0
 

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You can press § and write infamy -8. Not sure if it only works in DW. Haven't played HTTT much.
 

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You can press § and write infamy -8. Not sure if it only works in DW. Haven't played HTTT much.

sorry press what were? My keyboard does not seem to have that key. I have not really played since it happened, been working and playing other games in the mean time but id like to fix this. No-one has heard of this happening before? It seems a problem I have with HttT overall, atleast as Norway. Remembered now that in my first attempt I lost to Sweden, ceded territory to them and got punished with infamy aswell. Would the unoffical fixpack resovle this issue?
 

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If you cede provinces, you don't gain infamy, you lose it. So it must be a bug, or you must be wrong.

Clearly a bug then as I had it happen twice with Norway now. Question is how do I fix it.

On a semi related note, don't think this is a bug but just to be sure. When I make a peacedeal after a won war and i claim territory for one of my allies (gotland to England) it is correct that the infamy is for me right? Figured that was logical as I had demanded it but lets ask it anyway.
 

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Seems its only bugged for Norway o.o Loaded into Korea who were in a war with the timmies, ceded a province and lost 3 infamy. This is annoying -.-

Don't suppose anyone has any experience playing Norway in HttT? Had a bug earlier were I could not engage Finnish armies unless they were standing still too (they acted like an army fleeing from combat when entering a province were they were already in motion.. just without the combat part). Somehow Norway is just a mess :S
 
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Clearly a bug then as I had it happen twice with Norway now. Question is how do I fix it.

On a semi related note, don't think this is a bug but just to be sure. When I make a peacedeal after a won war and i claim territory for one of my allies (gotland to England) it is correct that the infamy is for me right? Figured that was logical as I had demanded it but lets ask it anyway.

If you demand territory for your allies, you gain infamy. Not them. Which is pretty annoying, but propably is a WAD.
 

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It kind of makes sense as it would be to easily exploited. Best fix would be decision for the reciever to except it (with infamy) or not though, but thats a discussion for EU 4:p. Won't salvage Norway I fear.