Infamy/badboy reduction

[unmerged(88716)]

I just found out that changing religion in a pece deal lowers the infamy. I didn't really pay much attention to infamy when I changed religion earlier.

Anyway if you feel like changing religion without stabhit - you can just sue for peace, offer tribute > change religion to your enemy's religion. I've used it before, only when it fits my goals usually when my score is high enough that they happily accept tribute.

This time in four days I changed from catholic > protestant > catholic > protestant > catholic. I got -3, -3, -1.5, -3 infamy reduction. Don't know why the third shift got lower reduction. So, a nice thing, even if you only convert for a day and get back to preferred religion. You get 10 prestige reduction for each shift, but prestige is easy to gain.

Other things I use to lower the infamy are Holy war CB (annex a 4 province Muslim country for 4 BB, create vassal or release that country in a peace deal for -8 BB) and of course create vassal you have a core on to take him back later for no BB.

Share your thoughts and methods...

 

[GoguRomania]

I don't like to use the game exploits ...
To lower my infamy i adopt the CABINET NI, hire a 6 skill diplomat, build an embassy and pray for a high diplo-skill ruler

 

[Mechahamster]

If you're going through such lengths to game the system to lower your infamy you might as well use the console

 

[DDRJake]

Be a non-catholic christian, convert everyone away from catholicism and then become catholic yourself. Enjoy ~1.3 infamy reduction per year from the Holy Sea.

Never done this before but it seemed like a rad idea.

 

[unmerged(88716)]

If you're going through such lengths to game the system to lower your infamy you might as well use the console

Not really, just that it's a new thing about religion shift that I've noticed today. I tried it to see how much I can do with an earlier save while I was still in war with four countries. Maybe this should be disabled for next release.

I do, however, use Unam sanctam for CB to take land and turn my neighbors to my religion. After enough of them are my religion, I just switch religion to another and do my neighbors again.

 

[GoguRomania]

To "do" your neighbors again you must wait 5 years until a truce expires. I loose in 5 years 12.5 infamy... It is enough for an IMPERIALIST country ...

 

[unmerged(88716)]

To "do" your neighbors again you must wait 5 years until a truce expires. I loose in 5 years 12.5 infamy... It is enough for an IMPERIALIST country ...

not if you want to conquer the world. and I have a lot of neighbors so when all of them are converted, some are ready for another go...

 

[GoguRomania]

not if you want to conquer the world. and I have a lot of neighbors so when all of them are converted, some are ready for another go...

Yeah ... but hey, who wants to conquer the world?

 

[unmerged(106498)]

Ooops, wrong thread sorry.

 

[GoguRomania]

Ooops, wrong thread sorry.

See? He doesn't want to conquer the world ...

 

[Retrograde]

The most you can get is -3.8 or so a year, from all 13 Cardinals, 9 diplo leader, 6 star ambassador, and Embassy.

 

[GoguRomania]

The most you can get is -3.8 or so a year, from all 13 Cardinals, 9 diplo leader, 6 star ambassador, and Embassy.

What about Cabinet national idea?

 

[unmerged(179469)]

The most you can get is -3.8 or so a year, from all 13 Cardinals, 9 diplo leader, 6 star ambassador, and Embassy.

The maximum is -7.03 a year. As a very hard heir-less, marriage-less AI former pagan nation that has become Catholic and joined the HRE, while remaining a tribal government with royal marriages. As a human, only -6.03 a year is possible.

And there's 15 cardinals, no?

 

[BlitzMartinDK]

Doing a Holy war to release said country as a vassal later does not strike me as gamey...And it gives you money..

 

[BlitzMartinDK]

Question : In a war with Bavaria. Bav. has Ansbach, Palatinate(Franken, oberpfalz) and Augsburg annexed. Can I use this to reduce my Infamy? (I am Denmark, and have 13 infamy). If I force Bavaria to release, I do not get any reduction, right?
Do I get a net-reduction if I take the province, and then release it as a minor? Do I get a Infamy reduction if I sell a province? (Ulm has a core on one..)

Ohh. And I need advice to get rid of my War Exhaustion...it is nearing 15%. And please don't say peace . I know that one.

And it is still early game, no NI yet..