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The spy catching is survivor bias.

Only spy networks as incompetent as the Slovakian network are caught. The more competent networks are still present, just incapable of detection by ontological limericks.

Conversely, if you are an incompetent spy network, there is no point putting your spies where they are bound to be caught. At least in Slovakia, you have a 50/50 chance.

Now waiting to see whether T&T can stop the British Army at the Ljubljana gap before they penetrate the Austrian Romanian Strategic Entrenchment.
 

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Yes, otherwise it may be time for the Bratislava Autonomous Regional Front! Perhaps straight after an especially vigorous session with the hip flasks. Or any unplanned encounter with an errant Eclogue, such as:

Well, I dreamt it was a hot day, the territorials
Were out on melting asphalt under the howitzers,
The brass music bounced on the houses. Come
I heard cry as it were a water-nymph, come and fulfil me
And I sped floating, my feet plashing in the tops of the wheat
But my eyes were blind <etc> :confused:

Not to bag the poet’s art, but Louis MacNeice may not quite be Tiso & Tuka’s cup of tea. Or whatever it is they put in their flasks! Watch out for Five-barred Gates - though Slovakia probably only has the tech for three-barred gates at best :rolleyes:.
 

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By diverted to the cabinet I presume you mean T and T's drinks cabinet rather than the government cabinet (no point wasting it on those idio... Dedicated sober government workers)
I imagine a complex hierarchy of drink availability, the more loyal and important to T&T you are, the more drinks you get.

Sloped armour didn't come for British tanks until the Centurion.
That is wonderfully pedantic point to join upon. I hope you enjoyed the rest of it, but even if you didn't such contributions are always welcome.

Well, I took a look on some photos of the Comet, so I agree, that the armour isn't sloped everywhere but it is at the chassisfront.
There is a discussion no when sloped armour was deliberately introduced and when it just happened due to industrial practice or accident of design. This is probably not the place for that discussion.

The spy catching is survivor bias.

Only spy networks as incompetent as the Slovakian network are caught. The more competent networks are still present, just incapable of detection by ontological limericks.

Conversely, if you are an incompetent spy network, there is no point putting your spies where they are bound to be caught. At least in Slovakia, you have a 50/50 chance.

Now waiting to see whether T&T can stop the British Army at the Ljubljana gap before they penetrate the Austrian Romanian Strategic Entrenchment.
That is a possibility. It is also possible that all the competent spy networks know there is no point bothering with Slovakia, as there are no secrets to steal, no industry to disrupt or anything of any importance to do. That leaves only the incompetent ones who think they can get an easy life by going after the softer targets.

Slovakia has no troops on the area formerly known as the Italian Front, so the Austrian Romanian Strategic Entrenchment is potentially totally exposed...

Yes, otherwise it may be time for the Bratislava Autonomous Regional Front! Perhaps straight after an especially vigorous session with the hip flasks. Or any unplanned encounter with an errant Eclogue, such as:
(Censored to protect my eyes)
Not to bag the poet’s art, but Louis MacNeice may not quite be Tiso & Tuka’s cup of tea. Or whatever it is they put in their flasks! Watch out for Five-barred Gates - though Slovakia probably only has the tech for three-barred gates at best :rolleyes:.
*Shudder* if the randomly named Tido Gaspar ever does introduce his Slovakian reign of terror, he shall be using the poetry of that fiend Louis MacNeice. I had previously been unaware of his efforts, and I think I was happier in ignorance.

The earliest archaeological evidence for fields and gates dates back to 3,500 BC. I know Slovakia has regressed a lot as this AAR has progressed (they used to just be stuck in the early Victorian period) but they can't be that backwards. They've got doors on the command shed and presidential bungalow, they must have the technology for gates. Surely. Surely?
 

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Slovakia has no troops on the area formerly known as the Italian Front, so the Austrian Romanian Strategic Entrenchment is potentially totally exposed...
:D *chuckles to self heartily*
*Shudder* if the randomly named Tido Gaspar ever does introduce his Slovakian reign of terror, he shall be using the poetry of that fiend Louis MacNeice. I had previously been unaware of his efforts, and I think I was happier in ignorance.
Indeed hence likelihood of that new Front ‘opening up’! :eek: *pop - glug glug* - just to get the taste out of the mouth and return to oblivion.
The earliest archaeological evidence for fields and gates dates back to 3,500 BC. I know Slovakia has regressed a lot as this AAR has progressed (they used to just be stuck in the early Victorian period) but they can't be that backwards. They've got doors on the command shed and presidential bungalow, they must have the technology for gates. Surely. Surely?
Indeed - I was very careful to recognise the (relatively, for them) advanced state of Slovakian gate technology by supposing they would be able to build the three-barred version, but still perhaps a little way off from the Mk 5-bar model. The figurative model of which is needed to prevent the piercing assault on one’s consciousness from vicious PSYOPS attacks by British SOE agents armed with bucolic Eclogue poetry to defeat good Slovakian social realism.

Three bars on your physical (or mental) gate - or even sloped armour - are not enough to defeat such insidious attacks. Poetical ballistic overmatch is bound to result. The horror; the horror! :eek::eek::eek::eek:
 

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There is a discussion no when sloped armour was deliberately introduced and when it just happened due to industrial practice or accident of design. This is probably not the place for that discussion.

I was confused by this until I realised this wasn't actually Butterfly Effect...:).
Mind you, we can't really discuss it there yet either because it's way too soon...so...I guess it's back to tractor engines and the argentine beef trade!

I suppose if slovakia wanted to really inconvience the AI and maybe even break it, thus actually perhaps win the war for the other axis members, is to surrender to some minor power somewhere and have the British and US try to figure that one out. And since the SU will just invade whatever, they'll all start fighting each other. Then Slovakia can rise again to...get creamed but at least it could rise again to do something. Don't know whether that's possible or not though?
 

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Slovakia has no troops on the area formerly known as the Italian Front, so the Austrian Romanian Strategic Entrenchment is potentially totally exposed...

While rife with potential for amusement, I imagine that it is probably best that we not now try to name the Allied force currently thrusting north into the...Entrenchment. :p
 

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Then Slovakia can rise again to...get creamed but at least it could rise again to do something. Don't know whether that's possible or not though?
As was once said in a famous Australian political put-down, “A soufflé doesn’t rise twice!” Especially when it then gets creamed ;).
 

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As was once said in a famous Australian political put-down, “A soufflé doesn’t rise twice!” Especially when it then gets creamed ;).
You Auzzies and your political quotes. One of our politicians once said "the French love the Cock" (he then realised what he has just said, we think he was meaning the rooster)
 

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You Auzzies and your political quotes. One of our politicians once said "the French love the Cock" (he then realised what he has just said, we think he was meaning the rooster)
Heh - you never can tell with our Antipodean pollies! :oops::D
 

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Indeed - I was very careful to recognise the (relatively, for them) advanced state of Slovakian gate technology by supposing they would be able to build the three-barred version, but still perhaps a little way off from the Mk 5-bar model.
Woah there! I think it's dangerous to assume Slovakia has indeed discovered the three-barred gate, as has been discussed Slovakia has no agricultural techs at all. This would suggest to me very primitive gates, perhaps two or even single bar gates. Maybe even gates with no bars at all...

I was confused by this until I realised this wasn't actually Butterfly Effect...:).
Mind you, we can't really discuss it there yet either because it's way too soon...so...I guess it's back to tractor engines and the argentine beef trade!

I suppose if slovakia wanted to really inconvience the AI and maybe even break it, thus actually perhaps win the war for the other axis members, is to surrender to some minor power somewhere and have the British and US try to figure that one out. And since the SU will just invade whatever, they'll all start fighting each other. Then Slovakia can rise again to...get creamed but at least it could rise again to do something. Don't know whether that's possible or not though?
You may be surprised by what will be discussed in the next update for Butterfly, which might even emerge before Christmas. Though it definitely wont be the Comet tank.

If Slovakia had the power I'd probably leave the Axis and then join with Ecuador in it's lone war against the world. That would confuse everyone while making very little practical difference. Alas as a Puppet Slovakia is tied to the fate of Germany.

Although I am unsure what happens to a puppet when the puppet master is annexed. Unlikely to occur here given the relative progress rates of the Allied fronts, but a tiny bit of flickering hope. Perhaps, before the end, Slovakia will be an actual free country for several days and get to unconditionally surrender as a choice not an order from Berlin.

While rife with potential for amusement, I imagine that it is probably best that we not now try to name the Allied force currently thrusting north into the...Entrenchment. :p
Worryingly the Allied force currently has the unimaginatively inaccurate name "Allied Forces in Italy" so are due a rename. But as you say perhaps but not to go there at the moment.

As was once said in a famous Australian political put-down, “A soufflé doesn’t rise twice!” Especially when it then gets creamed ;).
You Auzzies and your political quotes. One of our politicians once said "the French love the Cock" (he then realised what he has just said, we think he was meaning the rooster)
Heh - you never can tell with our Antipodean pollies! :oops::D
The guy who said that was only in office because a larger party told their supporters to vote for him (why? Because of how our electoral system works)
Antipodean politics does at least produce some amusing quotes. And weird electoral systems. And senior politicians who somehow don't know where they are born or what country it says on their passport. It seems to work for you lot though.
 

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If Slovakia had the power I'd probably leave the Axis and then join with Ecuador in it's lone war against the world.
I'd forgotten about them...well I suppose we know what your next aar is going to be!
 

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Will the next Butterfly update contain a disquisition on the match situation in Norway?
 

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I'd forgotten about them...well I suppose we know what your next aar is going to be!
If Ecuador lasts longer than Slovakia, I will take over and follow them to their bitter end. But if they succumb, then I shall ignore them and carry on with Plan A.

Will the next Butterfly update contain a disquisition on the match situation in Norway?
The Butterfly Effect / For King Haakon and The Fjords cross-over update would be bewitching, but probably end up a total mess. Luckily I never made a wild promise to finish that AAR as it got a bit unhinged and self-indulgent towards the end. Well from the middle onwards to be honest.

I can exclusively reveal that the match situation in Norway is fine, the Nitedals Match Factory is still going well. The main match related news is Olav Dalgard filming his Socially Nordically Realistic cinema masterpiece, Dawn in the North, about the 1889 Matchmakers Strike, a seminal moment in both the Norwegian trade union and feminist movements. Thus ends today's Nordic Match Report.
 

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I can exclusively reveal that the match situation in Norway is fine, the Nitedals Match Factory is still going well. The main match related news is Olav Dalgard filming his Socially Nordically Realistic cinema masterpiece, Dawn in the North, about the 1889 Matchmakers Strike, a seminal moment in both the Norwegian trade union and feminist movements. Thus ends today's Nordic Match Report.
Game, set and match!
 
20th October 1944

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20th October 1944

After the raucous partying that had followed the incredible "Day of no bad news" on the 18th, few in the cabinet expected Tiso and Tuka to make a prompt start to the next working day. In defiance of this they boldly walked into the command shed at the strike of 8am. OK it was 8am on the 20th so they were technically 23hours late, but in Slovakia you must take the little wins where you can.

"Vodca! Where have you been?" General Kubela looked agitated.

"The supreme leader was working on important government business." Tuka lied. "What did we miss?"

Kubela passed over a surprisingly thick file.

"Is there a summary?" Tiso asked.

"Yesterday started well, then got worse." Malar tried to help.

Tiso realised that he would waste more time trying to get a useful brief summary than said summary could possibly save.

"Talk us through the file please." He asked Kubela.

"The day began with the excellent news that we had won the Battle of Vernon." Kubela announced proudly.

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A heroic victory for Slovak forces against a numerically inferior opposition led by the worst Allied general of the entire war. Some people might be concerned that despite being on the defensive with superior numbers the Axis losses were 50% higher than Allied losses. These people are correct to be concerned.

"In the aftermath, the hero General Bitthorn and German 2nd Corps were recalled to OKW Headquarters to teach his advanced concrete-defence doctrine techniques." Malar pointed at the relevant portion of the file

"It seems to offer excellent opportunities for troops to more effectively die for the Fuhrer." von Killinger nodded approvingly.

"Unfortunately the Allies noticed the weakening of our lines and attacked that afternoon." Kubela turned sombre.

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The 5ª División de Infantería are, somewhat unexpectedly, from the Mexican Army. Originally part of the Mexican Intervention and Liberation Force the expeditionary force was renamed as the US generals kept sniggering at them. Now the 5ª División operates as part of the Mexican Intervention and Stabilisation Taskforce Assaulting Key European Sites. Mexico City has high hopes of gaining prestige and a seat at the peace conference through their impressive MISTAKES.

"Without General Bitthorn's inspired leadership, command returned to the vitally-challenged General Summermann." Kubela said.

"A true hero, he's already died for the Fuhrer and now he's come back to die again." Von Killinger openly wept in admiration at this ultimate example of the Triumph of the Will.

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General Algrea shows his inexperience by launching an attack across a river, at night, against a roughly equally sized opponent and without calling in his reserves. Against a different opponent, that might matter. It won't matter here.

"While General Summermann formed up against the Anglo-Mexican menance, General Juranec and the heroes of the 2nd (Western) Infantry (Division) volunteered to scout out and prepare the revised defensive line." General Malar somehow kept a straight face.

"So Juranec ran away before the fight was over?" Turanec interpreted.

"Basically, yes." Kubela admitted.

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The main point of non-Slovakian interest here is quite how heavily Romania has committed to the defence of occupied France. It's a good thing that the Eastern Front is going so well and those forces aren't desperately needed to defend Romania. Oh.

"General Juranec will re-establish the defensive line in Clermont shortly." Malar pointed at the last message.

"And that brings you up to date." Kubela concluded the briefing.

Tiso wondered if living through that in real time would have been worse than his hangover, it was a distressingly close call.
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A genuinely busy day on the Western Front.

The Mexican AI did decide to send an expeditionary force to the British, who even more surprisingly managed to use it properly and send it to the front. OTL of course the Mexicans didn't send any troops overseas, they did manage to get a single squadron (201st 'Atzec Eagles' which is a cool name) operational, it flew out of Luzon between June 1945 and the end of the war.

General Alvarez Algrea has an identical twin in the Spanish Republican Army. The internet is unclear exactly which of them is the real historical general and which is the doppelgänger, it is of course possible that neither of them ever existed.
 

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Action, screenshots, victory, defeat, running away, doppelgängers ... it had it all!
General Alvarez Algrea has an identical twin in the Spanish Republican Army. The internet is unclear exactly which of them is the real historical general and which is the doppelgänger, it is of course possible that neither of them ever existed.
Not that I’m am apologist for Paradox historical inaccuracies, but ... it would be amazing and amusing if Algrea was indeed both: fought for the Republicans as well as the Mexicans (before or after). We may never know :D.
 

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A heroic victory for Slovak forces against a numerically inferior opposition led by the worst Allied general of the entire war. Some people might be concerned that despite being on the defensive with superior numbers the Axis losses were 50% higher than Allied losses. These people are correct to be concerned.

It's been a bad year for me, personally, and I'm not saying that captions like this are the only thing keeping me going, but it's for damn sure they're keeping me going.
 

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After the raucous partying that had followed the incredible "Day of no bad news"
I would celebrate such a day...Today.:)

"A true hero, he's already died for the Fuhrer and now he's come back to die again." Von Killinger openly wept in admiration at this ultimate example of the Triumph of the Will.
:D Now that's commitment!:D

the Anglo-Mexican menace
<LOL> Now that's a new one to read about.

(201st 'Atzec Eagles' which is a cool name)
Hoping for a blood sacrifice?:)

Great update!