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racebear75 - There are only so many ways to put a machine gun turret on top of a six wheeled vehicle, plus they were both heavily 'inspired' by the 6x4 Lanchester armoured car that started the inter-war 6 wheeler craze.

Davout - I have a style few dare to copy. It is my hope that eventually I will earn the coveted "Double R" middle initials, awarded to authors who take their majestic time writing chapters and often go off on huge diversions that don't actually advance the plot.

TheButterflyComposer -
It would take an impressive bit of magic to save Slovakia now.
 
17th September 1944 - Hungarian Question expressed as Social Realist Haiku Edition Update

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17th September. Still.

The Slovak cabinet meeting continues to crawl along under the leadership and direction of Tiso and Tuka. Because what else are they realistically going to do at this point? Having dispensed with the urgent industrial matter (the country is running out of everything and there is nothing they can do about it), attention turned to the Hungarian Question.

"What, in the name of Saint Cyril, is wrong with the Hungarian language?" Tuka asked.

"That's a good question. But it's not the actual Hungarian Question." Tiso sighed.

"But it's nothing like any other language in Europe, or anywhere else. It's deeply suspicious." Tuka growled.

Tiso gestured for the rest of the cabinet to explain what the Hungarian Question actually was.

"How hard can it be to find a monarch?" Foreign Minister Druzinsky asked. Everyone stared at him. "They've been a regency for 24 years. Surely they've got a grown up King by now." He explained.

"Why did a landlocked country pick a terrible Admiral as regent in the first place?" Intelligence Minister Hans asked.

A junior staff officer coughed and handed over a note from Janko Jessenky

Bourgeois claims for land?
Epistemological,
Irredentist Fear!
The social realist Haiku, one of the most fearsome weapons in the arsenal of any author. Traditionally saved for vital issues of international importance,it's use here indicates Jesensky's strongly held views. Whatever those views are. Possibly.

"What?" Tuka asked after reading it.

"I think he's asking the fundamental question of whether the Hungarian governments many claims over it's neighbours are legitimate expressions of the true, un-stratified, will of the people, or if they are just the upper classes imposing nationalistic and ontologically un-verifiable bourgeois values that will, inevitably, destabilise the entire region." The staff officer volunteered.

The cabinet stared at him.

"I'll take myself to the snake and pencil pit." The junio officer sadly said.

Tuka nodded solemnly. After the unfortunate officer had left, he gestured for the cabinet to keep trying to work out the Hungarian Question.

"Why does the Prime Minister of Hungary look so old despite being only 37?" Tuka tried.

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Jeno Racz. Clearly being a junior civil servant in the economics department of the Ministry of Agriculture was no preparation for being inexplicably promoted to Prime Minister. The stress has taken a terrible toll on him.

"Did the poor treatment of non-Maygar minorities in Hungary after the Austro-Hungarian compromise of 1867 make the eventual dissolving of the Dual Monarchy and fall of the Hapsburg inevitable, or could Austro-Hungary have somehow survived the crippling internal ethnic tensions if there had been no Great War?" Pruzinksy offered.

The silence was only broken by Tiso popping open his hipflask. When he has finished his restorative drink he addressed the room.

"The Hungarian Question is actually this - How are we going to get those bits of Slovakia back off Hungary?" He asked.

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Some might say those bits of South Central Slovakia weren't that important, and they had just rebelled so clearly weren't trustworthy. Tiso and Tuka were clear that 1. Hungary had already stolen enough land, 2. They wanted the mighty forest fortress of Banska Bystrica back, just in case they did need to make a dramatic last stand there.

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1944 Hungary was a fascinating world of coups, counter-coups, invasions, plotting, Horthy repeatedly trying to surrender while Germany stopped him and commandos driving around in tanks. Naturally Paradox put none of this in the game.

Jeno Racz was a minor economist who's claim to fame is briefly being Minister for Finance in 1946, till the Communists took over and kicked him out. There was a Jeno Ratz who was more senior (senior general then deputy Prime Minister after the Second German counter-coup invasion), but he also looked nothing like the picture.
 
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the country is running out of everything and there is nothing they can do about it

This excerpt perfectly represents Slovakia and could be used as a motto or something similar: "Welcome to Slovakia, we ran out of everything"
 

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Paradox is clearly taking revenge on someone for all this historical misinformation but the question is, who?
 

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With your general impression of Slovakia steadily decreasing, do you know that Slovakian government almost sued makers of Eurotrip for their depiction of Bratislava :D?


(Sorry if this Eurotrip thing has been brought up before, I mean, this thread is more than 5 years old so I can't know what has been posted and what not :D)
 
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Btw, as I have been rereading the AAR for some time now (you know, exam period), I discovered in an update from June, 2014 that you couldn't figure out who the chief of Ecuadorian navy is. And the good news is: I found out :D. And yes, I think it is important.

It is this guy!

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From Google Translate - He was born on May 13, 1916, a naval hero, began his career in 1936 as a cadet of the Naval School and continued his training in the Navy of Chile. In July 1941 he served as second commander of the gunboat "Calderón" during the naval combat of Jambelí. He served as General Commander of the Navy (1949-1952). Organized and regulated the preparation of officers and crew. Established the first Naval Medical Dispensary. After his retirement in 1953 he settled in the United States where he dedicated himself to the Merchant Marine service. He died on December 23, 2000.

All in all, I would say it is not that bad of a choice for a 1944 Chief of Navy.
 

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Giob - It's a motto that only gets truer as time passes. Eventually Slovakia will run out of resources, troops, land, Victory Points and independence.

TheButterflyComposer - I'd always assumed it was anyone who wasn't Swedish.

Athalcor (1) - This has not been raised before, but that clip is very much in line with how I imagine T&T's Slovakia.

Athalcor (2) - I think you have identified the correct guy and as you say he is not a bad fit at all. In my defence it appears Paradox got his first name completely wrong and then spelt the other two wrong (they think he was called Hugo Endara Penaherrera) so he was well hidden. You however have managed some excellent detective work and I am very impressed.
 

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I think you have identified the correct guy and as you say he is not a bad fit at all. In my defence it appears Paradox got his first name completely wrong and then spelt the other two wrong (they think he was called Hugo Endara Penaherrera) so he was well hidden. You however have managed some excellent detective work and I am very impressed.

Actually, looking at the picture again, it seems that the maker of it is the one who did the misspelling. He really should be Endara Penaherrera...but where did the 'Hugo' thing come from, I have honestly no idea :D. It is not like Cesar and Hugo are similar in any remote way.

The only hint Google gives about this issue are several articles explaining that Hugo Chavez and Cesar Chavez are not the same person.
 
18th September 1944

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18th September.

The political and military leadership of Slovakia have taken some time to consider the complexities of the Hungarian Question and possible solutions. Having had more than enough thinking time (overnight) they have gathered bright and early on a Monday morning to report back to Tuka and Tiso on their thoughts and findings. With an entirely justified sense of dread, Tiso starts the meeting.

"Could we just wait for the end of the war and get it back then?" Durcansky asked. "I'm sure Hitler would be reasonable."

Tuka was saved having to shout by Pruzinsky's interruption

"Banska Bystrica contains 1/6th of our manufacturing industries and is a key coal mining hub." He explained.

"It's got two small factories and a tiny pit with some dodgy coal in it." Malar queried.

"As I said, 15% of our industrial base." Pruzinksy confirmed.

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One of the Industrial Heartlands of the Second Slovak Republic, invaded and occupied by Hungarians, who were inflicting terrible torment on the locals, such as incorrectly pronouncing the accent on the a in the region's name.

"It is vital that we have get our lands back as soon as possible." Tiso ordered.

"The problem is that Hitler says Slovakia isn't properly fascist." Hans-not-a-German explained.

"We have no elections, many repressive secret police organisations, a dodgy flag and we're a Nazi puppet state!" Tuka yelled. "What more could he possibly want!?"

"I don't think we need to change our government." Tiso agreed. "It seems too risky."

Further discussion was stopped by the arrival of a message for General Malar.

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After a brief blip, General Juranec and the 2nd (This Space Available For Hire) Division had reverted to type in failing to defend Rouen.

"We have lost the battle of Rouen." Malar announced.

"I didn't know it had even stared." Tiso admitted.

"Neither did I." Malat confessed. He checked the back of the message. "Ahh, it appears we lost so quickly Juranec didn't get a chance to say it had started, so he combined both messages into one."

"Efficient." Hans murmured excitedly.

Giving that up as a lost cause, Tiso tried to drag the discussion back to the Hungarian Question.

"How about declaring war on Hungary, claiming back what is ours and then annexing Hungary into Greater Slovakia, taking us one step closer to an open route to the seas." Part time Navy Minister Turanec suggested.

There was a stunned silence as Turanec outlined his radical Open Seas doctrine.

"Don't you think it would be better if you returned back to your division on the Eastern Front?" Tiso asked firmly.

Seeing that Tuka was vibrating with barely contained rage, a dejected Turanec left the room and headed back East.

"Any other ideas?" Tiso queried.

The cabinet was saved from embarrassing itself further by the arrival of a second messenger. Well the same person, but with a different message.

This being an industrial message, the velum parchment and the fact it was slightly singed being the clues, Pruzinksy adjusted his monocle and read it.

"It appears the workers have got the news about the end of the Sub-Total Civil War." He announced.

"And they are celebrating with a triumphant march through Bratislava?" Tuka asked.

"No quite I'm afraid." Pruzinksy sighed.

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The strike could have crippled the Slovak economy. If Slovakia had an economy. Some might say that a strike during the National Uprising would have had more effect. These people are right.

Tiso felt himself entirely justified in reaching for his hipflask.

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The game did decide the best way to celebrate beating the Czechs was with a major worker strike. Seemed an appropriately Slovak reaction.
 
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Fun fact - Bánská: adjective created from the word mine and Bystrica: swift stream. Choosing such a name, it really seems that the industry was an important trait of the city.
 

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Such terrible news from Banská Bystrica!
I do feel Turanec is on to something here, such a radical plan would be expected by no one! Primarily because Hungary is also landlocked, but hey look at the bright side, its closer to the coast!
 

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Athalcor - A rare example of correct Paradox research. It should be taken,and preserved in aspic for future generations to marvel at.

sebas379 - Turanec belongs to the old Slovak tradition of radical optimism, undaunted by facts or hipflasks.

Andre Massena - The could hardly make things any worse, so I'm sure T&T would give it a go, if only the could find any Tibetan gangsters to employ.
 
19th September 1944

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19th September.

Tiso has considered the advice of his cabinet, slept on it, and reached a momentous decision. Well, as momentous as any decision made by a micro-power puppet-nation can be. We return to the command bunker as he begins to speak.

"It is clear that the only way to get back our birthright is by embracing National Socialism. Only then will we able to finally claim victory over the Czechs and reclaim Banska Bystrica." Tiso announced.

A mixture of shock and spitting rippled through the room. It was about as messy as you'd expect.

"Traditionally we have resisted this, preferring to forge our own unique Slovakian path." He continued.

This prompted much self satisfied nodding.

"However I have come to two conclusions. Firstly we are a German puppet state, so we can't actually go on an independent path, Slovak or otherwise. Secondly, we are caught between the Allied 15th Army Group and the 3rd Ukrainian Front of advancing armies, a 1/3rd of the army has been captured, our only combat HQ was bombed to death, most of the High Command were Czech traitors."

A pause for massed spitting from the assembled cabinet minister.

"We've misplaced the airforce, can't find the riverine force, there is an ongoing national strike and we don't even have the resources to run out tiny industrial base at half capacity." Tiso continued his catalogue of misery. "So I asked myself this key question, how much worse could things actually get?"

That was not a rhetorical question. It was still met with silence.

"That's settled it then, we're doing it." Tiso announced.
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The legal and constitutional efforts required to get a country officially declared fascists are too long, complicated and fictitious to be discussed here. So they aren't. It probably involved Gejaz Fritz and, this being the Slovak constitution, Saint Cyril and some goats.

There is a distinct lack of any shimmering effects as the transition is made. However eventually a messenger arrives and passes a note to Tiso.

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Despite his complete lack of use or ability, Foreign Ministry Durcansky was the first to know that the country had officially gone fascist. This is because he was the one the League of Nations informed after they'd updated their big book of nations.

"I can't say I feel especially different." Tiso said.

"No, seems basically identical." Tuka confirmed.

There mildly disappointed conversation was interrupted by the arrival of a new messenger. Well by the messenger walking out of the room and then back in again. This is Slovakia after all.

"I have a message for the leader." He announced.

Then to everyone's surprise the messenger walked straight past Tiso and started looking around the place.

"Where are you going, I'm the Generalisimo of Slovakia!" Tiso commanded.

"I can't give it to you." The messenger nervously explained.

After restraining Tuka from summoning the guards, Tiso asked why.

"Because this message is for the Fuĥŗęř of Slovakia." Replied the messenger, failing entirely to pronounce the weird foreign umlaut.

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Why is Stefan Tiso Foreign Minister and who is the new Fuĥŗęř?

As Tuka expressed his frustration vocally, Tiso reached for his hipflask. He was, however, saved from the depths of despair by watching the cleaner trying to tidy up the mess of Czech inspired spit and scattered punctuation. In Slovakia, there is always someone worse off than you, unless you are the poor, poor cleaner.

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A thrilling cliff hanger? Hopefully? Maybe? All will be revealed next time as Tiso and Tuka get to the bottom of this mystery.

In the aftermath of the Slovak National Uprising the German influence on the Slovak government and it's policies became much more pronounced. And that is all I am going to say on that subject.
 
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El Pip, just so you know; I saw your updated dates and of course realized this was still on. (I don't get around much because of health) I enjoy this AAR a lot...just wish I was not so ignorant of 20th century eastern-Europe.

This crafted zoom-way-in...is absolutely brilliant! Huzzahs from the Midwest US:)
 

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"I can't say I feel especially different." Tiso said.

"No, seems basically identical." Tuka confirmed.

What were they expecting? To evolve like Pokemon do?

"Tiso has evolved into Mega Tiso! Has gained the move Double Hipflask."
 
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What were they expecting? To evolve like Pokemon do?

"Tiso has evolved into Mega Tiso! Has gained the move Double Hipflask."

He's doing it wrong. He has to raise his sword and call upon the powers of gray skull.
 

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Giob - This is why Tiso thinks you make a path by forging it, he is imagining teams of blacksmiths making a new road by hitting it with hammers.

Andre Massena - This may not be "just as planned" for Mach, but he and Stefan will certainly be returning.

markkur - Don't worry too much, it is clear Paradox were deeply ignorant of 20th century Eastern-Europe but they didn't let that stop them.

It is always best to assume an El Pip AAR is still going, they just stop for the occasional nap, but they always wake up and carry on. Thanks for the kind words! :D

Nathan Madien - Tiso will certainly need the Double Hipflask move before the end, so it's a shame that didn't happen. He and Tuka expected crowds making a silly gesture, the ritual bestowing of a new title, some form of uniform, basically something more elaborate than a telegram from the League of Nations.

TheButterflyComposer - I see Tiso as more a low level, not in many episodes, Skeletor Henchmen, not particularly evil if left to his own devices but has fallen into evil after being led astray. And also doomed to lose regardless of what he or anyone else does.