Industrialism mod(1.03)

[Dracleath]

As an example, the current resources I'm testing in my games for colony building are:


coaling_station = {
cash = 10000
lumber = 20
cement = 20
coal = 20
small_arms = 5
clipper_convoy = 5
leadership = 9
}

mission = {
cash = 10000
lumber = 20
cement = 20
glass = 10
paper = 10
small_arms = 5
leadership = 9
}

fort = {
cash = 10000
lumber = 20
cement = 20
liquor = 10
small_arms = 10
leadership = 9
}

trade_post = {
cash = 10000
lumber = 20
cement = 20
opium = 10
small_arms = 5
precious_metal = 10
leadership = 9
}

This slows down the ai considerably, but still allows it to colonize. In my current game with the industrialisation mod and these settings (with 10 canned goods also on forts that I dropped because the ai still wasn't building them) that I abandoned around 1860 england had colonized canada, france algeria, spain was moving into the sahara and mauritania, the dutch and us had some colonies in the pacific, and aside from a few coastal french provinces west africa was still open for the most part. Also portugul did some colonizing around angola but nothing major. Russia was limited to alaska and 2 claims in british columbia.

 

[unmerged(23737)]

Ok thanks Dracleath understand what you wanted to say!
It's a good idea, but as i written earlier above i plan to include Derek's colonization mod(which stops colonization at all until 1880 and then faster colonization)!
But perhaps you and the others who are using my mod don't like that idea?!
Please tell me which solution you do prefer!

 

[Vharzul]

Hmm intresting hehe for my own settings dont know if its helps, ive done this as my projected costs, some I havent changed but it seems to have an effect, most of africa in 1855 wasnt colonized really, at elast 70% of it was still free, and because of competition some area's could be claimed so a nice thing for colonial war thier I might increase a few value's but the reason for not changing a few things is due to nations like Japan have to be able to afford to build colonies if you want a chance to become civilized earlyer.

#
# Province project costs
#


coaling_station = {
cash = 10000
lumber = 40
cement = 40
coal = 20
clipper_convoy = 2
leadership = 3
}

mission = {
cash = 5000
lumber = 20
cement = 20
leadership = 3
}

fort = {
cash = 7000
lumber = 20
cement = 20
artillery = 4
explosives = 10
leadership = 3
}

trade_post = {
cash = 5000
lumber = 20
cement = 20
leadership = 3
}

railroad = {
cash = 2000
lumber = 10
cement = 10
steel = 10
}

 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

no seriously I played Belgium and I took Maastricht and I was waiting to let them migrat to Brussels to work in the sulfer mine, but they never moved because they were getting more rich and more rich by the minute,

farmers/laborours don't move internally if the RGO of the province they're in isn't filled completely. They only migrate to other countries.

anyway, does this mod allow pops to have more than 100£ in their pockets?

 

[unmerged(23737)]

farmers/laborours don't move internally if the RGO of the province they're in isn't filled completely. They only migrate to other countries.

anyway, does this mod allow pops to have more than 100£ in their pockets?

For the lower classes yes!
I've managed it with unified germany and low class taxes about 50% the farmers and craftsmen have more than 100£ cash reserves!

 

[unmerged(23737)]

Additonal to my last post:
After setting low class taxes under 45% i've got my pops to buy bonds!

 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

For the lower classes yes!
I've managed it with unified germany and low class taxes about 50% the farmers and craftsmen have more than 100£ cash reserves!

sweet. looks like I'll be installing this mod then.

 

[unmerged(23737)]

sweet. looks like I'll be installing this mod then.

fine...it would be nice if you could report your findings and experiences!
This would help to improve this mod!

 

[tony luke]

fine...it would be nice if you could report your findings and experiences!
This would help to improve this mod!

Wilhelm, Can't download your latest mod (full version). Is there a problem with the link? If not can you email it to me direct? Many thanks in anticipation.

Tony luke

 

[unmerged(23737)]

Hm...don't know why it doesn't work anymore?!
Download it from here

 

[unmerged(22442)]

Of course you can ask and will even answer!
First i've added an ai event which gives russia a penalty in building/upgrading factories(more money and ressources needed):

[size=2]
#########################################################################
#  Russia industrializing penalty
#########################################################################
event = {
	id = 30189
	random = no
	country = RUS

	trigger = {
		ai = yes
	}

	name = "Russia industrializing penalty"
	desc = "desc"
	style = 0

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1836 }
	offset = 5
	deathdate = { day = 31 month = january year = 1836 }

	action_a = {
		command = { type = factory_cost_mod  value = 500 }
		command = { type = capacity_cost_mod value = 250 }
	}
}
[/size]

And second i've taken the tech "freedom of trade" away from russia's GC startup.
I know that it's a bit too much penalty right now but i will test it more and find the best values!
Any comments or suggestions are welcome!!!

I started a GC as Russia and found that the penalty was insane.

IE: To expand/build a fortress it cost 55 leadership, $40,000, 110 cement, 60 Explosives, and 120 Lumber.

Expanding Clipper Factory cost 35 Machine Parts.

Building a cement factory costs 60 Iron, 60 Cement, 60 Machine parts.

I understand what you are trying to do, but I find it a little too much at this point. Perhaps only making it 150% at beginning and then with the tech that allows Machine parts factory, bump it up more to say 250%.

I would also suggest you allow about a year or two before putting these in place to allow some factories to be built and RGO's to be expanded to take up some of the slack of unemployed pops.

Perhaps a good reflection would be a higher crime fighting cost and army maintenance to simulate the cost of maintaining these factors over such a vast country, and will help level the playing field as well.

Just some notes so far. I will continue playing to see if it gets better.

Zed

Edit: Sorry, after re-reading this I thought I might have been a little harsh. What I meant was, I don't think you intended it to be this difficult, and just wanted to make some suggestions to allow a player, and the AI, to get a decent start, but not be able to go overboard.