Indian Statehood?

[HMS Enterprize]

Is this possible? because in every game I have played, British India cannot take advantage of the huge population and get them into factories.

I have managed to get Brits (somehow.!?!?) to go to Australia so I can build factories there. Is it even possible to give India statehood? or is it technically possible but realistically impossible?

 

[Nightcap]

The large pops in India means that the chances to enough brits emigrating there to become a majority in one province is quite small.

is it technically possible but realistically impossible?

I beleive so, but I don't play the UK very often and have never tried granting India statehood.

 

[OriginalRafiki]

The last one; the Indian states have such high non-British populations, that it's hard to get a British majority there. It's possible, but quite difficult.

Rafiki

 

[crash63]

The last one; the Indian states have such high non-British populations, that it's hard to get a British majority there. It's possible, but quite difficult.

Rafiki

It's very very difficult to have british majority in one indian province.

I think that India is useful for agricultural income and industry must be in GB.

 

[unmerged(26989)]

The idea of Britain being able to use India's huge population in factories scares the hell out me, though it would be awesome if I was playing as England.

 

[unmerged(31118)]

OK, usually I'm fairly lax about issues like this, but the british granting statehood to India? From my understanding of the ramifications of statehood, the Brits would never have done that. Plus, even in the real world, they never built factories there because that would have screwed factories in England, run and staffed by voters.

This has real game impact since you should concentrate your factories in Britatin proper where your state culture pops can work in them and use India (as the Brits did along the lines of sepoys) for mega quantities of native troops. Which is pretty much what they seem to do in most games.

 

[unmerged(24432)]

Couldn't one sell the land to a civilised Asian country (Japan after the Meiji Restoration), wait for them to grant the states statehood, and buy them back? That is, if one is hell-bent on doing so.

 

[unmerged(31118)]

Couldn't one sell the land to a civilised Asian country (Japan after the Meiji Restoration), wait for them to grant the states statehood, and buy them back? That is, if one is hell-bent on doing so.

Probably not. Even Japan would suffer from the same problem, since their state culture is different from those found in India.

I do wonder (I've not played Britain, so I don't know) what would the Pros/Cons be of trying to create a unified India for a dominion (i.e. conquering the satellited minors and giving them all to one state). I know those states give GB lots of exped. forces to mirror sepoys etc, and a bigger state could develop tech, build factories on it's own.

In fact, if you were absolutely hell bent on getting India as a state you could do that and then conquer that statelite...but that would take a while, give you lots of BB, and eat away at prestige and manpower.

 

[cymruwarrior]

Plus, even in the real world, they never built factories there because that would have screwed factories in England, run and staffed by voters.

They did eventualy, i know they built factories to help with railway construction, probably a few others too, but not untill the end of the 1800s at least i would think.

 

[unmerged(31118)]

True, forgot that. Nonetheless, part of the problem is the limitation on building RR and Factories in colonies...which is weird, I think. Or at least, I can't think of a reason why it works that way.

 

[Golden_Deliciou]

They did eventualy, i know they built factories to help with railway construction, probably a few others too, but not untill the end of the 1800s at least i would think.

Nothing sophisticated, though. Just lumber and so on.

Someone should take a look at this. Maybe there ought to be an event to give the option of creating low-level factories in India late in the 19th century.

 

[Darkrenown]

Probably not. Even Japan would suffer from the same problem, since their state culture is different from those found in India.

But they're on the same continent, so it's possible.

 

[Waffen9999]

Nothing sophisticated, though. Just lumber and so on.

Someone should take a look at this. Maybe there ought to be an event to give the option of creating low-level factories in India late in the 19th century.

I suggested something along that lines a while back. Basic factories such as lumber, cement and fabric. It got shot down in a ball of flames. The idea I had for it was because of Britain's incredibley low national population. You need them to work in the factories like Steel armaments etc. The Indians would be fine working in the basics.

 

[Henry v. Keiper]

Yes as Waffen says it was brought up a while back and people generally didn't like it.

I share TheMadcapSyd1's fright of an India with industrial power. The UK already has an odd edge over other GP.

 

[Waffen9999]

Yes as Waffen says it was brought up a while back and people generally didn't like it.

I share TheMadcapSyd1's fright of an India with industrial power. The UK already has an odd edge over other GP.

It'd be ok if it was possible to put a limit on the level of the factory such as level 2. And since it would be only those 3 factories, cement, fabric and lumber, it's not as if it's crucial war goods.

 

[OHgamer]

Probably not. Even Japan would suffer from the same problem, since their state culture is different from those found in India.

I do wonder (I've not played Britain, so I don't know) what would the Pros/Cons be of trying to create a unified India for a dominion (i.e. conquering the satellited minors and giving them all to one state). I know those states give GB lots of exped. forces to mirror sepoys etc, and a bigger state could develop tech, build factories on it's own.

In fact, if you were absolutely hell bent on getting India as a state you could do that and then conquer that statelite...but that would take a while, give you lots of BB, and eat away at prestige and manpower.

When the 0.3 version of the VIP mod is released in the next few days you may want to check it out - South Asia has been given a major rework - we now have the British East India Company as a separate state in the game along with an option to keep India separately administered after the 1857 Rebellions. South Asia will now be a lot more interesting to play.

 

[cymruwarrior]

Nothing sophisticated, though. Just lumber and so on.

I'm fairly sure they were building steam engines over there (only because shipping them all the way from the UK wasn't that viable), which is a little more sophisticated than lumber, you have to admit.

 

[Waffen9999]

I'm fairly sure they were building steam engines over there (only because shipping them all the way from the UK wasn't that viable), which is a little more sophisticated than lumber, you have to admit.

It's kinda funny you should mention that. I'm actually knda shocked they enver had a Train factory or something.

 

[Sir Humphrey]

Try my Immagration mod to solve the pesky problems of granting statehood to colineis etc. (The sig).

 

[Darkrenown]

When the 0.3 version of the VIP mod is released in the next few days you may want to check it out - South Asia has been given a major rework - we now have the British East India Company as a separate state in the game along with an option to keep India separately administered after the 1857 Rebellions. South Asia will now be a lot more interesting to play.

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