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i guess most people dont know its still alive.

when i visitied this thread not too long ago it was still "paused".
i only got to know by chance it was continued. :)

since i did not test it yet i cant say much.
but i would prefer larger nations.
i would have had no problem just skipping the 1-province to 3-provinces phase in the IES.

the problem i see is that when you cant annex a nation in one go ->you have to wait 5 years. which will slow down the initial phase...
 
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To me, 100 nations seems more than sufficient. Keeping the nation-size will provide for a lot more colonization, while larger nations will provide for more conquering instead. Perhaps a little bit of both? Enlarge the nations, but keep some room in between?

:) Rafiki
 

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Preliminary map
Pic removed.

Those areas marked with numbers are yet to be divided (in that many states/nations). Personally I don't have much of a clue to make it as historical and aestathic as possible.
First priority should be to divide according to population culture or religion.
 
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I'm glad this is still on. I'm having a lot of fun with your independent crusader kings mod (and am still fond of IES, of course)

Now for my two cents.

Portugal: flip a coin
Finland: first one with mikkeli swapped with vassa
Eastern Poland: first one
Southern France: second one
Northern France: second one
Lowlands: first one
Germany: fourth one
Greece: third one
Northern Italy: third one
Southern Italy: second one (in the third picture, to whom is Ancona supposed to belong?)
 

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Thanks for the first vote :)
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Northern Italy: third one
Southern Italy: second one (in the third picture, to whom is Ancona supposed to belong?)

All northern italian pieces are not combineable with the southern ones. (or else Ancone might be empty while Viterbo is used twice).
Possible combinations, North-South:
1-3, 2-3, 3-1, 3-2, 4-1, 4-2
I should have made that clearer. :rolleyes:
 

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Portugal: second one
Finland: first one
Eastern Poland: second one
Southern France: second one
Northern France: first one
Lowlands: second one
Germany: fourth one
Greece: fourth one
Northern Italy: fourth one
Southern Italy: second one

This is what I think look best, I have no idea how historical it is.
 

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Culture/Religion:
Should I try to be as historical with 1836 as possible, or should I more or less make each country have one culture with same-cultured-pops and no diversion?
The later might be boring, but it's easier to do.
 
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Culture/Religion:
Should I try to be as historical with 1836 as possible, or should I more or less make each country have one culture with same-cultured-pops and no diversion?
The later might be boring, but it's easier to do.
You could make the latter interesting if there's a way to increase the migration rate somehow.

Also remember that you can't grant statehood if the cultures are too radically different, so keep that in mind. Then again, I guess all European countries start with statehood by default.
 

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World Map:
IVS_WorldMap.jpg

Coloured are nations and areas/states while black are just uncolonized areas/states.
All areas/states except one consists of 6 provinces, however if I made a mistake (fully likely) somewhere and included 7 in one state, that province could be "moved" to the one with 5 (northern pacific islands is the area/state btw). I will discover any mistakes when it comes to ID them all.