Independent Europe Scenario (Screenshots included)

[Kaigon]

i'm not at my home computer now, but if you could tell me what i can maybe change to stop the crashing i will do more tests to see if the COT situation works and you can add the new nations and a new COT setup to the next version

I might have a new recipe for the CoTs...
There could be a number of events, all will either trigger before 1420 or not at all. These events will add a cot in a province (there will be one event for each province/nation), and will cease to trigger when a set amount of CoTs has poped up (will only trigger if not too many of the other ones have been triggered). You could also add some work and make it impossible for two CoTs to appear in bordering provinces (if that's a problem...)...

 

[Zan Thrax]

How are the events triggered? Do they just have large offsets so that after the first X events fire, the rest get slept, leaving the starting cots completely random? Or are you planning to have there be requirements for a province to get a cot? (Maybe a not at war trigger to discourage early attacks?)

 

[unmerged(20491)]

everybody loves screenshots!

i'm watching a hands-off IES game right now, taking screenshots every 20 years to watch how things develop.

i'm only up to 1479 so far, but you can find the first three screens here:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/thinlines/ies/ies_ho.html

i labeled all the nations that have at least four provinces.

have a look!

 

[Kaigon]

everybody loves screenshots!

i'm watching a hands-off IES game right now, taking screenshots every 20 years to watch how things develop.

i'm only up to 1479 so far, but you can find the first three screens here:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/thinlines/ies/ies_ho.html

i labeled all the nations that have at least four provinces.

have a look!

I like that... it's "always" some Russian nation that beats "everyone else"... it seems to be Pskov now... They beat Tambow, who where large '39 and '59.

I might do the same one day... perhaps with an animated GIF...

 

[Kaigon]

Is the IES startable now with the latest patch?
I haven't put too much effort into it, but it can't start any scenario...

 

[Kaigon]

How are the events triggered? Do they just have large offsets so that after the first X events fire, the rest get slept, leaving the starting cots completely random? Or are you planning to have there be requirements for a province to get a cot? (Maybe a not at war trigger to discourage early attacks?)

I was thinking about complete randomness, but I have to think about more... it's not foolproof yet... (and it was actually brainstorming rather than a complete idea)

 

[unmerged(20844)]

i was planning on doing the same thing...
a note, i did mention russian nations being very powerful...
it seems pskov is often a strong country

wont an animated gif with such sizes be toooo large for viewers?

i got the patch but i dont think i'll apply it before it's finalized...

 

[Khephren]

Is the IES startable now with the latest patch?
I haven't put too much effort into it, but it can't start any scenario...

Just posted in the bug forum. The ART tag locks the game up on the selection screen.

 

[Kaigon]

The IES will work with the latest beta if you delete or rename country.csv, located in EU2-folder\Independent\Db\
You will get some funny graphical result and leadernames. Revolter will have different DP-settings and HRE-election will be weird... but it's playable...

EDIT: Hmm, can't seem to start games... but I can still load old savegames...

 

[Gathenhielm]

Strange...

Maybe it has something to do with the text-file, if you dont have all the tags in?

 

[Kaigon]

Well, I think I've solved it now... it might've been an error with the new MEA-tag and ART-tag (as already reported)...

 

[Kaigon]

These are the new nations that I'm planning:
Sjælland, catholic, scandinavian
Skåne, catholic, scandinavian
Småland, catholic, scandinavian
Gotland, catholic, scandinavian
Svealand, catholic, scandinavian
Västergötland, catholic, scandinavian
Østlandet, catholic, scandinavian
Bergenshus, catholic, scandinavian
Trøndelag, catholic, scandinavian
Narvik, catholic, scandinavian (name might change later)
Jämtland, catholic, scandinavian
Bergslagen, catholic, scandinavian
Gästrikland, catholic, scandinavian
Västerbotten, catholic, scandinavian
Lappland, catholic, ugric
Finnmark, catholic, ugric
Österbotten, catholic, ugric
Finland, catholic, scandinavian
Tavastland, catholic, ugric
Savolaks, catholic, ugric
Nyland, catholic, ugric
Kexholm, catholic, ugric
Kola, orthodox, ugric
Karelia, orthodox, ugric
Olonets, orthodox, ugric
Archangelsk, orthodox, ugric (or russian)
Vladimir, orthodox, russian
Samara, sunni, tatar
Uralsk, sunni, tatar
Orenburg, sunni, tatar
Astrakhan, sunni, tatar
Azerbaijan, sunni, turkish
Nuysayybin, sunni, turkish (pretty misspelt, eh?)
Aleppo, orthodox, armenian (turkish/greek seems wrong)
Cyprus, orthodox, greek
Iceland, catholic, scandinavian (not sure if they would do any good)

 

[Kaigon]

Random "old" Norwegian names, plus names of some historical ones that could pop up (no chronological order):
*snip*
You could add on forever, anything that could be Norwegian names back then...

Last names for leaders and surnames for monarchs...
would this make sense?
Norweigan monarchs: (perhaps some of the names are very non-royal)
Amund
Bjarne
Eindride
Eirik
Erlend
Erling
Filippus
Gunnar
Halfdan
Halvard
Hans
Harald
Herlog
Håkon
Håvard
Ivar
Jens
Jon
Knut
Lars
Magnus
Nikolaus
Nils
Ogmund
Olav
Peter
Ragnar
Sigurd
Sjur
Sverre
Thorir
Vidkunn
Yngvar

Norweigan leaders: #32
Alvsson
av Bjarkøy
av Losna
Barfot
Birkebein
Bjelke
Blodøks
Bolt
Eiriksson
Galle
Giske
Gråtopp
Hafthorsson
Haraldsson
Hudfat
Håkonsson
Jonsson
Juel
Kongsfrende
Larsson
Magnusson
Nesheim
Nordmann
Raude
Sigurdsson
Sjursson
Skakke
Svarte
Sveinsson
Svifte
Tordenskjold
Trondsson

I would appreciate a few more leader-lastnames if possible, 32+those in randomleaders.csv will be enough, but the more names the better.

 

[Kaigon]

These are the new nations that I'm planning:

There will also be some changes:
Jutland, catholic, scandinavian
Estland, orthodox, ugric
Ingermanland, orthodox, ugric
Adana, orthodox, armenian (if armenian needs to be larger)

Another thing:
Should I merge baltic and lithuanian? Perhaps add byelorussian or something...

 

[unmerged(11366)]

everybody loves screenshots!

i'm watching a hands-off IES game right now, taking screenshots every 20 years to watch how things develop.

i'm only up to 1479 so far, but you can find the first three screens here:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/thinlines/ies/ies_ho.html

i labeled all the nations that have at least four provinces.

have a look!

That proves it: as Estramadura, ALWAYS take out Castile early!

 

[Kaigon]

Success!

 

[Gathenhielm]

Have i bad eyesight or is it no country in Meath?

 

[VPeric]

Have i bad eyesight or is it no country in Meath?

methinks you are right.

Anyway, that map seems great... now if could have a new culture map....

 

[Kaigon]

Have i bad eyesight or is it no country in Meath?

You are right... I was going to use MEA-tag for Meath, so the MAL tag could go to Malta and then the prevoius Malta tag: HOL could be put out of the game, since it has hardcoded things (HRE-stuff)...
And the MEA-tag was bugged, so I de-activated its code with #:s. Is hoping for a quick follow-up-patch to fix all the problems (ART-tag as well)...

 

[unmerged(20844)]

some colours have been changed i see... a bit messy in certain regions

but it's always worth it for more countries
i'd suggest leaving Narvik as it is now, we dont all live in Norway and i personally would have a hard time finding it on the map or typing Hallogaland (sp?) in the search function
and Arkhangelsk Ugric to balance cultures

i say a funny thing yesterday, Hinterpommern was a one-province minor in Brabant province! lol