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So I am Venice and have three marches - Byzantium, Aquilea & Croatia. They ally together and Byzantium declares an independence war.

Now when I beat them, there's no way to bring Aquilea & Croatia back to fold. Defeating Byzantium just makes them back my vassal, but not the other two. I can't separate peace Aquilea & Croatia in any way that would make them stay my subjects either. Is this absurd nonsense WAD or is it just a humongous bug?!
 
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I've never had vassals ally each other and declare on me, but I think it would have to do with that. The war is for Byzantium independence but the other states have become independent in the process. The bug, I imagine, is that either the interface is lying to you and when you end the war it will give you back all your vassals, or the entire idea of vassals under a single liege becoming allies were not taken into account for independence wars, which seems odd considering that's a addition to the game they added expressly and is the point of them being able to ally.
 

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I was also able to call Poland and France into the Genovese war even though they were already helping me against the vassal trio... this whole thing is weird.

EDIT: ending the Genovese war didn't do didlysquat with regards to the Aquilean/Croatian nonsense...

This is a bloody game-breaking bug.
 
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Shouldnt you be able to demand the vassalization of the two vassals if you occupy all their land and ask byzantium as the war leader for it (instead of asking them separately)?
 

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Post in bug forum with save, please.
 
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