A lot of things have been discussed in this game, but so far not even one mention has been brought up about this. When I first talked about it in my "How Japan can win the war realistically" topic, none seemed to have the slightest whim what I was on about. What this means is basically how a nation with colonial states can have those colonies removed from them if they fail to properly control them. Just as the netherlands, France, portugal and England lost their colonies after war world 2 and throughout the 50 to 70's or so, but this has completely blindsighted. Imagine being able as Japan to simply incite revolts in Dutch India or in Indochina or even India or Portugese Guinea. Think how much resources you could claim either by being able to perhaps puppet them or gain relations with them by supporting their independence movements. This would make a lot of sense and actually make good gameplay because it would allow France, Portugal and Netherlands in particular to have something to do after they get steam rolled by Germany. If Japan decides to spend resources to have nationalist movements spread in the colonies, they might be bogged down in China. If these fails, they will have to intervene in various ways.
This could lead to relations with the US deteriorating even further, but would allow them to grab some colonies without having to be DOWed by the US. Same thing for England if they are defeated by Germany, they might have to give up parts of India, perhaps Burma and Bangladesh to the Japanese in a peacedeal or something. This would grant Japan enough resources to get the army running WITHOUT having to make a suicide charge at the US, which never had any real chance of realistically succeeding. Nevertheless, it hasn't been brought up ONCE. We have had political coups and that, but it seems people are more interested in the idea of causing a coup in the US than a more sensible and practical alternative of simply having sort of indpendence proxy wars. Why is this idea not revered?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Thai_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasion_of_French_Indochina#Fighting_breaks_out
http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=22899 Bankrupting the Enemy
^This last one is extremely interesting an I highly recommend reading it^
I suggest you read all three of them since they are very important in order to understand how Japan meddled in other countries colonies and what lead up to the oil embargo.
What it basically means what it all comes down to it is that Japan shouldn't ally with the Axis and instead using Axis victories in Europe to it's own advantage. Unless Japan intends to help Germany in it's fight against the SU, Japan should only focus on developing it's own pacific empire either through diplomacy, indepence movements, interventions, or lastly direct invasion. (The latter being the last choice available). This allows Japan to soak up stuff without having to come into conflict with the US, since Japan is only interested in the resources par see. Money there will be plenty once they start taxating the chinese
Basically We will have kind of a small cold war between the US and Japan over the colonies, the US and the west either wanting to preserve their colonial empire or puppet them like the philipiness to increase their influence and make sure Japan can't expand. Japan would simply want the nations to be free so that they could trade their resources with the rest of the world equally, but they would be more inclined to trade with the japanese for cheaper prices due to good relations and closer distances that the western nations.
Now I know a lot of people are like "What the hell no war? Buuuu screw that I want to have desperate struggle against the US Kamikaze banzai."
To those people I say, this is absolutely no different other than that you wait with engaging the us until about 1943 or 1945 or so when you have a reasonable chance of beating them. You can only beat the US if you plan smart and advance on their main cities before they have a chance to bring their armies up. I don't know if this aspect was even considered by the developers. We barely know how they intent to give Japan a fighting chance against the US and unless you are Podcat you are basically dead. I know a lot of people want that extra challenge, I just want to know their is another way to go about the pacific war, since Japan only decided to declare war on the US as their very last option. If this was the art of war, Japan would have basically been dead before they even made the decision to bomb pearl harbor.
Realized I talked a lot about Japan, but it's because I really hope that they were actually considered as a variable and not tossed aside EU4 style.
Historically, Since Japan didn't have enough equipment to support these movements, and the fact that the US was pretty hostile against them in 1941 financially, and might have just supplied the dutch instead, making a independence war take excruciatingly long for it to be worth it. Japan lost because they got bogged down in china for too long, draining too much resources and weaponry, which made it impossible for them to support these movements. But in this game where you might be able to beat china after two or three years, it could make a difference. Just saying, not allying with Germany, keeping good relations with the US, not being bogged down in China, and lastly supporting independence movements in the colonies, war against the SU in Serbia and finally some kind of showdown with the US and maybe the UK in around 1943 1944. I think those things would give a Japanese player more than enough to do during that timeline and still be much more productive than the historical version. Again, requires some hindsight perhaps and unity which was unheard of in the Japanese army, but still a viable possibility.
This could lead to relations with the US deteriorating even further, but would allow them to grab some colonies without having to be DOWed by the US. Same thing for England if they are defeated by Germany, they might have to give up parts of India, perhaps Burma and Bangladesh to the Japanese in a peacedeal or something. This would grant Japan enough resources to get the army running WITHOUT having to make a suicide charge at the US, which never had any real chance of realistically succeeding. Nevertheless, it hasn't been brought up ONCE. We have had political coups and that, but it seems people are more interested in the idea of causing a coup in the US than a more sensible and practical alternative of simply having sort of indpendence proxy wars. Why is this idea not revered?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Thai_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasion_of_French_Indochina#Fighting_breaks_out
http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=22899 Bankrupting the Enemy
^This last one is extremely interesting an I highly recommend reading it^
I suggest you read all three of them since they are very important in order to understand how Japan meddled in other countries colonies and what lead up to the oil embargo.
What it basically means what it all comes down to it is that Japan shouldn't ally with the Axis and instead using Axis victories in Europe to it's own advantage. Unless Japan intends to help Germany in it's fight against the SU, Japan should only focus on developing it's own pacific empire either through diplomacy, indepence movements, interventions, or lastly direct invasion. (The latter being the last choice available). This allows Japan to soak up stuff without having to come into conflict with the US, since Japan is only interested in the resources par see. Money there will be plenty once they start taxating the chinese
Basically We will have kind of a small cold war between the US and Japan over the colonies, the US and the west either wanting to preserve their colonial empire or puppet them like the philipiness to increase their influence and make sure Japan can't expand. Japan would simply want the nations to be free so that they could trade their resources with the rest of the world equally, but they would be more inclined to trade with the japanese for cheaper prices due to good relations and closer distances that the western nations.
Now I know a lot of people are like "What the hell no war? Buuuu screw that I want to have desperate struggle against the US Kamikaze banzai."
To those people I say, this is absolutely no different other than that you wait with engaging the us until about 1943 or 1945 or so when you have a reasonable chance of beating them. You can only beat the US if you plan smart and advance on their main cities before they have a chance to bring their armies up. I don't know if this aspect was even considered by the developers. We barely know how they intent to give Japan a fighting chance against the US and unless you are Podcat you are basically dead. I know a lot of people want that extra challenge, I just want to know their is another way to go about the pacific war, since Japan only decided to declare war on the US as their very last option. If this was the art of war, Japan would have basically been dead before they even made the decision to bomb pearl harbor.
Realized I talked a lot about Japan, but it's because I really hope that they were actually considered as a variable and not tossed aside EU4 style.
Historically, Since Japan didn't have enough equipment to support these movements, and the fact that the US was pretty hostile against them in 1941 financially, and might have just supplied the dutch instead, making a independence war take excruciatingly long for it to be worth it. Japan lost because they got bogged down in china for too long, draining too much resources and weaponry, which made it impossible for them to support these movements. But in this game where you might be able to beat china after two or three years, it could make a difference. Just saying, not allying with Germany, keeping good relations with the US, not being bogged down in China, and lastly supporting independence movements in the colonies, war against the SU in Serbia and finally some kind of showdown with the US and maybe the UK in around 1943 1944. I think those things would give a Japanese player more than enough to do during that timeline and still be much more productive than the historical version. Again, requires some hindsight perhaps and unity which was unheard of in the Japanese army, but still a viable possibility.
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