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Incest marriages for all religions
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Well, I did say it's a historical simulation, not a historically accurate one. The game attempts to stay relatively historically accurate, however. You know, such as in marriage law. Although the game does allow a lot more leniency in who you could marry than in reality already, however,I am clearly missing the "historical accuracy" tag.
Just kidding
And I dont want to break it. I like it too the way it is.
But if my lunatic King decides to marry his mother, he cant.
Not because it wasnt appropriate at the time but because the game is restricting you.
What would have happened if a King would have married in an incesteous way during the middle ages?
He would have been excommunicated but you dont see that happening in ck2 because of those restrictions.
Marriage law is important, and all I am saying is: Let people try to step out of line and have their butts handed to them for doing so.
The marriage laws will still be there and they will still have value.
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Not just because it wasn't appropriate at the time, but because it was illegal at the time. A "marriage" with a close relative was not considered a legal marriage. You can sleep with your close relatives and foster illegitimate children with them, just like they did it reality, but you can't actually marry them. Marriages in Crusader Kings II are, in fact, legal marriages, of which you and your sibling cannot do.
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Okay to cut this discussion down:
I see and understand your point, but i still think the player should get more freedom (also to act illegal) and be punished for it to balance it out.
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The thing is that you can't just illegally get married in the same way as, say, stealing a loaf of bread. It's a contractual thing and, in the case of nobility where inheritance carries some rather heavy weights, has to be recognized. In places where homosexual marriage is illegal, there's no underground gay marriage scene. If you announce that you're married to someone, but are not actually married, it is not a marriage.
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Yes, you are right. I completly forgot that it is somewhat like a contract of three parties and the pope would never agree to sign something like that.
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I agree, as long as it's in the confines of historic plausibility.But I still believe that the player should be granted more freedom where possible
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Is horse advisorship and Turnip Acts not enough for you?That i can agree to. Plus something more when you got the lunatic trait
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Inflation is a serious problem, comrade. This is not a joke.Oh it is nice and I enjoy it,really.
But there are never enough turnips, you know
The good thing about insults is, you are not the one to decide if what you said is insulting or not
I think you are missing the whole point of this discussion.
It is not about, what was realistic at the time or what should be expected to happen.
The thing is to give the player more freedom in their gameplay, soft-borders vs. hard-borders.
I play CK2 because it gets really crazy (when you are playing a homosexual king and you seduce the homosexual pope for money) but that is only possible because we have that amount of freedom.
It clearly wouldnt have happened or would have been realistic in the middle-ages (or was it?).
But it is fun.
Restricting players is not.
I want super tanks and airships in CK2! Why can't a lunatic genius with high scholarship invent airships and tanks?! The game restricts me!
Some things are just unfitting and would never be happen... marriage is a social contract. It would allways be viewed as illegal to marry your sister. With the seduction focus you can fuck her anyway. Do it and be happy. But marrying her is as impossible as hell during this era.
Hi Thure,
If you follow the discussion that went on after i posted this you will see that I changed my mind.
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you already can, invent airships and tanks, but works only at ironman mode and you need lunatic trait and 75 stewardship to trigger event. So whats the problem. Ah i see you can never get 75 stewardship at ironaman mode.
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In summary: a marriage that is not legal is not represented in the game. If there is pipe-laying going on outside of a legal marriage, the word that the game uses is "lover."
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You can marry anyone.
A lunatic king of my current dinasty married with an old god and then slew it when he realized that tentacle sex wasnt his thing. He was insane.
A lunatic king of my current dinasty married with an old god and then slew it when he realized that tentacle sex wasnt his thing. He was insane.
Something no one has mentioned yet.
Saying you should be able to marry your sister is like saying you should be able to declare war without a valid CB, except that declaring war without a valid CB happened more often historically.
Saying you should be able to marry your sister is like saying you should be able to declare war without a valid CB, except that declaring war without a valid CB happened more often historically.
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