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"It makes him hated above all things, as I have said, to be rapacious, and to be a violator of the property and women of his subjects, from both of which he must abstain. And when neither their property nor their honor is touched, the majority of men live content, and he has only to contend with the ambition of a few, whom he can curb with ease in many ways."
--- Niccolo Machiavelli, the Prince
Discussion between Adolf Hitler and Carl Friedrich von Siemens, Chief of the Air Force.
July 25th, 1936
Focke-Wulf Research and Design Facility, Bremen
Adolf Hitler:
So this is the new design?
Carl Friedrich von Siemens:
Yes, Führer. We are only a couple week away from finalizing the prototype design. As you can see, the ME-109E will be a superior model to the 109D. It has more armor, a stronger engine, more powerful machine guns, and can carry a small bomb load if necessary for light action; such as anti-tank missions.
Adolf Hitler:
I am not interested in its bombing capabilities, Carl. How will it perform against enemy aircraft?
Carl Friedrich von Siemens:
Very well! It is faster, better armed, and better armored than anything the allies can put in the air. It will turn their fighters into slag and their bombers into scraps. I am fully confident!
Adolf Hitler:
Excellent! As you introduce the 109E, transfer any 109Ds to our foriegn service office. I have already shipped tons of supplies and cash plus a sizeable contingent of volunteers to Spain to fight for the Fascists. I would be very happy if I could provide them with the old 109Ds. They are more than enough to shoot down the pathetic Soviet models the Republicans are using.
Carl Friedrich von Siemens:
I shall definitely do that, Führer
Adolf Hitler:
Well, Carl. Our technological progress is truly astounding. All our research is progressing well. Our new infantry divisions have been deployed along the Polish border. In a few years, we will be the most powerful nation in Europe.
Carl Friedrich von Siemens:
We are all honored to bring this glory to Germany, my Führer.
(Basic Machine Tools researched)
(Agrichemistry researched)
(Basic Computing Machine researched)
(Early Air Carrier researched)
(IG Farben begins research on Improved Machine Tools)
(Siemens begins research on Agricultural Production)
(Konrad Zuse on Improved Computing Machine)
(Kriegsmarinewerft begins research on Basic Air Carrier)
(3 interceptors deployed)
(6 Infantry deployed)
(Spanish Civil War-Sent support)
(Guangxi Clique DOWs Nationalist China)
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Seigneur_Vauban: ...3 7-unit orders of PzKpfw.I placed under construction
lifeless: why didn't you wait for better tech to begin building tanks? great work!
Seigneur_Vauban: Tanks are upgradable. Ships are not.
i not only understand lifeless' question, i would have asked it if he had not asked it... i have not done the math, however it is my understanding that building new Pz-IIIs/IVs from scratch are much cheaper than going thru the upgrade cycles...
that said, if you don't upgrade until you are at least two cycles behind then your cost of upgrade is 25 percent times 25 percent (time and IC). that is, one sixteenth instead of one fourth...
most excellent updates! !
lifeless: why didn't you wait for better tech to begin building tanks? great work!
Seigneur_Vauban: Tanks are upgradable. Ships are not.
i not only understand lifeless' question, i would have asked it if he had not asked it...
i have not done the math, however it is my understanding that building new Pz-IIIs/IVs from scratch are much cheaper than going thru the upgrade cycles... that said, if you don't upgrade until you are at least two cycles behind then your cost of upgrade is 25 percent times 25 percent (time and IC). that is, one sixteenth instead of one fourth...
most excellent updates! !
Even if it is marginally cheaper, upgrades can be done piecemeal at your leisure. If you have free IC, you can choose to upgrade or you can use that IC for other things. You can also spend a small amount of IC to upgrade over a long period of time. Lets say you have 250 IC of upgrade needs. You can devote 30 IC for a long period of time and slowly pay it off.
If you build the units from scratch, they block out your IC. If something else comes up that you want to divert your IC to accomplish, you really cant. Not without shutting down production.
Also, the tanks are available even if the upgrade is not. Tanks in production are completely worthless on the battlefield. Tanks being upgraded actually have utility.
Also keep in mind I will be fully hawk & fully standing army soon. Upgrades are much cheaper for me than for all other major enemies: USA, USSR, France, and England.
If you build the units from scratch, they block out your IC. If something else comes up that you want to divert your IC to accomplish, you really cant. Not without shutting down production.
Also, the tanks are available even if the upgrade is not. Tanks in production are completely worthless on the battlefield. Tanks being upgraded actually have utility.
Also keep in mind I will be fully hawk & fully standing army soon. Upgrades are much cheaper for me than for all other major enemies: USA, USSR, France, and England.
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Seigneur_Vauban: ...Tanks being upgraded actually have utility...
understood. i realize that you can have those tanks in combat as they are being upgraded.
understood. i realize that you can have those tanks in combat as they are being upgraded.
"Let them call me rebel, and welcome, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul by swearing allegiance to one whose character is that of a sottish, stupid, stubborn, worthless, brutish man."
--- Thomas Paine, The American Crisis
Discussion between Adolf Hitler and Francisco Franco, Spanish Fascist in Exile.
January 27th, 1937
Berchtesgaden, Bavaria
Adolf Hitler:
As I have told you before, you may stay here in Germany as long as you like. After the fall of France, I will restore you to power in Spain.
Francisco Franco:
The fall of France? Are you joking me? When your aide told me this on the train, I thought for certain he was mistaken of your words.
Adolf Hitler:
No, France will fall. There is only so far that I can push before they will declare war. Perhaps it will be over Czechloslovakia, perhaps Poland. At some point they will have been pushed too far. And they shall walk into our fist.
Francisco Franco:
You seem quite confident. Are you sure it is well placed?
Adolf Hitler:
We already have an army larger than that of France. And they have distributed their army in North Africa and Southeast Asia. Ours is concentrated. I have more than enough to hold the French at the Rhine while Poland is disemboweled. Then I will march through Belgium and do the same to France.
Francisco Franco:
And of the British?
Adolf Hitler:
The British Army is a joke. The Belgians are more fearsome. What concerns me is the British Navy and it is only a matter of time until Alfred Saalwächter's vision of a carrier armada is a reality.
Francisco Franco:
And what will become of the Spanish people while I wait here for your plans to come to fruition?
Adolf Hitler:
They shall suffer under the Republicans. The people of Spain did not rise up for nothing, after all. By the time you return you will be like a fresh breeze blowing new life into Spanish society.
Francisco Franco:
I hope you are right. I truly do.
*Carl Friedrich von Siemens, Chief of the Air Force enters the room*
Adolf Hitler:
Carl! Come sit and speak with us.
Carl Friedrich von Siemens
Of course, my Führer. What is it you wish to discuss?
Adolf Hitler:
Tell me about your new interceptors?
Carl Friedrich von Siemens
Well the last of the ME-109Ds has been completed. The factories have been retooled to produce the upgrades necessary to bring them up to the 109E model. Within a few months we should have three full air wings of 109Es. Anything France throws at us will be shot out of the sky.
Francisco Franco:
The 109Ds did not arrive in Spain in time. Perhaps if we had received them earlier....
Adolf Hitler:
I cannot be held responsible for the intervention of the Soviets. Had I known they would provide the Republicans with such enormous resources I would have intervened sooner, Francisco.
Francisco Franco:
I am not laying blame, herr Hitler. I am merely pointing out that we could have potentially turned the tide. It was a close fight.
Adolf Hitler:
In war, there is no room for second place. We all must accept that. This is why when we move against France and Poland it must be quick and deliberate. No hesitation, no doubt. There is no room for error. Hungarian assistance will be vital in this effort as well.
Carl Friedrich von Siemens
Agreed, my Führer. The Hungarians will prove useful allies...
(Basic Interceptor researched)
(Improved Machine Tools researched)
(Basic Air Carrier researched)
(Agricultural Production researched)
(Focke-Wulf begins research on Basic Fighter)
(IG Farben begins research on Advanced Machine Tools)
(Kriegsmarinewerft begins research on Improved Air Carrier)
(Siemens begins research on Basic Decimetric Radar Warning Sites)
(Hungary allied to Axis)
(6 tanks deployed)
(12 infantry deployed)
(Standing Army +1)
"They tell us, sir, that we are weak -- unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed and when a British guard will be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak, if we make proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power."
--- Patrick Henry, 1775
Discussion between Adolf Hitler and Hirota Koki, Prime Minister of Japan.
July 22nd, 1937
Kriegsmarinewerft Dockyards, Kiel
Adolf Hitler:
As you can see, these dockyards have begun construction on the most advanced warships known to man. In just two years, Germany has gone from one of the most backward nations in terms of naval aviation to the forerunner. Our decision to embrace carrier warfare is due in part to our study of Japan and its mighty fleet.
Hirota Koki:
Thank you for your kind praise. These designs are by far the best in the world, I will admit. They exceed even our most advanced carriers and we are ahead of the British. Once these are complete, the British will be at your mercy even in their own coastal waters. What are you going to use to defend them from the rest of the British fleet?
(The best the British can build is CV3, best in service is CV2)
(The best the Japanese can build and have in service is CV3)
Adolf Hitler:
Our research teams are working on new destroyer designs. We plan on beginning construction of an armada of state-of-the-art destroyers about this time next year. They will provide a perfect screen behind which our carriers can launch devastating attacks on the British fleet.
Hirota Koki:
Then you definitely intend to follow a path to war with the Anglo-French alliance?
Adolf Hitler:
I believe such conflict is inevitable. It is far better to make war on my own terms than theirs. The time will come when there will be no other option but to strike while the iron is hot.
Hirota Koki:
Be careful you do not bite off more than you can chew, Herr Hitler. What began as a small skirmish around Marco Polo Bridge has developed into a full war. Shanxi has fallen to our forces but the Chinese army is enormous. For every 10 men we kill, 20 seem to take his place. It is a difficult situation, but I am confident we will ultimately emerge victorious. Our experiences on the battlefields of China will prepare us for the ultimate conflict with the Imperialists.
Adolf Hitler:
When war does come, the French, Belgians, and Dutch will be hopelessly occupied with the German army in Europe. It would be a prime time for you to invade their lightly defended colonial outposts.
Hirota Koki:
We look forward to that day with great anticipation, Herr Hitler. Please endeavor to keep us informed of any developments so that we might take maximum advantage of these meddlesome Imperialists.
Adolf Hitler:
I will, Hirota. I will. I am glad you have joined our Anti-Comitern pact as well. The Russian Bear is formidable. We are much safer from his aggression if we cooperate together.
Hirota Koki:
Do you believe the bear will act should Europe be set aflame by war?
Adolf Hitler:
No, we are making preparations for a diplomatic solution....
(Japan + Italy in Anti-Comitern Pact)
(Basic Decimetric Radar Warning Sites researched)
(Basic Fighter researched)
(Advanced Machine Tools researched)
(Siemens begins research on Advanced Construction Engineering)
(Porsche begins research on Basic Light Tank)
(Ernst Edet begins research on Direct Ground Support Doctrine)
(Deployed 18 infantry)
(Interceptors upgraded)
(Built and Deployed 12 transports)
(Deployed 3 tanks)
(Japan DOWs Chinese factions)
(Nat China annexes Shanxi as Japan invades)
(Direct Ground Support Doctrine researched)
(Ernst Udet begins research on Bomber Veteran Initiative)
(Improved Air Carrier researched)
(Kriegsmarinewerft begins research on Basic Destroyer)
(Ordered 4 2-unit runs of Improved Carrier)
(Ordered 2 4-unit runs of CAG-4)
i see your point...great updates! how long til the first carrier rolls off the docks?
The first battle group of 4 carriers will be completed on May 19, 1939.
The second battle group of 4 carriers will be completed on February 14, 1941
If I dont have CV5 tech yet, I will not cancel the second order. If I do, I will cancel it and build CV5
8 CV4s will be ready by April 25 1939.
The second battle group of 4 carriers will be completed on February 14, 1941
If I dont have CV5 tech yet, I will not cancel the second order. If I do, I will cancel it and build CV5
8 CV4s will be ready by April 25 1939.
Seigneur_Vauban: "..Sir, we are not weak, if we make proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power." --- Patrick Henry, 1775
so very true! ! "proper" utilization of resources...
excellent updates! !
so very true! ! "proper" utilization of resources...
excellent updates! !
"There are cases which cannot be overdone by language, and this is one. There are persons, too, who see not the full extent of the evil which threatens them; they solace themselves with hopes that the enemy, if he succeed, will be merciful. It is the madness of folly to expect mercy from those who have refused to do justice; and even mercy, where conquest is the object, is only a trick of war; the cunning of the fox is as murderous as the violence of the wolf, and we ought to guard equally against them both."
--- Thomas Paine, The American Crisis
Speech by Adolf Hitler to National Socialist Party
Broadcast worldwide by the BBC
March 22nd, 1938
Reichstag, Berlin
* THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE *
Adolf Hitler:
Thank you. Thank you. Please be seated.
Gentlemen, I want to thank you for joining me tonight to discuss the future of Germany. As you all know, yesterday the people of Austria voted overwhelmingly to become a part of Germany. This event will be remembered by the people of Austria as the greatest moment in Austrian history; the day that Austria ceased to be a nation of weakness buffeted about by the powerful wolves in her midst and instead stode boldly forward alongside the people of Germany into a safer and stronger future.
For millenia, the people of Germany have been fragmented and divided. They have been kept in constant chaos for the benefit of their own selfish rulers and for the foriegners who have meddled endlessly in her affairs. German has fought against German, again and again, and for what? For the improvement of the political power of France? Of Britain? Of Poland? Of Russia? Tonight we send out the message, powerfully and unambiguously, the people of Germany stand united together. We will not be torn asunder for the political convenience of foriegners!
* THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE *
My fellow Germans, we have come a long way and it has not been hard. However, the path of the righteous is not for the weak. Each challenge, each trial, each setback has been a test from the Almighty. And through pain and blood and sorrow, GERMANY IS TRIUMPHANT!!!
* THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE *
For the past two decades, the people of Germany have suffered. We have suffered under the Wiemar traitors! We have suffered the terms of that accursed treaty where our so-called leaders sold the German people down the river! We have suffered indignity upon indignity for the benefit of the French, the British, and the Poles. We send out a message tonight, GERMANY WILL SUFFER NO MORE!
* THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE *
And finally tonight I have a special message for the people of Austria. More than any nation, you know the injustice of Versailles. It brought your once mighty nation to its knees. Well, kneel no more, brother. STAND UP, BROTHER! GERMANY STANDS BESIDE YOU!
* THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE *
(Improved Computing Machine researched)
(Konrad Zuse begins research on Basic Encryption Devices)
(Began Construction on 6 2-unit runs of radar sites)
(Advanced Construction Engineering researched)
(IG Farben begins research on Production Control)
(Deployed 6 tanks)
(Deployed 12 infantry)
(Bomber Veteran Initiative researched)
(Siemens begins research on Production Planning)
(Basic Light Tank researched)
(Mauser begins research on Basic Infantry Division)
(Basic Destroyer Research)
(Kriegsmarinewerft begins research on Improved Destroyer)
(Basic Encryption Devices researched)
(Konrad Zuse begins research on Basic Decryption Devices)
(Standing Army +1)
(2 CAGs ready)
(6 Radars deployed in Mecklemburg region)
(Improved Destroyer researched)
(Kriegsmarinewerft begins research on Long Range Submarine)
(Hungary gives blueprints for Rear Area Vehicle Repair Shop)
(Anschluss - ANNEXATION!)
Seigneur_Vauban: ...Anschluss. . . .Hungary gives blueprints for Rear Area Vehicle Repair Shop
excellent info on the Anschluss! !
how is it that Hungry researches Rear Area... before you do? ? not complaining, just curious! !
awesome update! !
excellent info on the Anschluss! !
how is it that Hungry researches Rear Area... before you do? ? not complaining, just curious! !
awesome update! !
GhostWriter said:how is it that Hungry researches Rear Area... before you do? ? not complaining, just curious! !
awesome update! !
Thanks! I had to do some special Photoshop edits on the Anschluss image to make it "Paradox-safe". Note the black circle under the Eagle.
Hungary researched it before me because it is a tech I could skip and come back later to pick up. I honestly didnt expect Hungary to share techs, I was going to get it before Sept 1939 on my own but the blueprints will just make it easier
BTW: To all you "upgrade-conscious" folks out there. I am currently trying to get 600+ IC worth of upgrades done. 24 tank divisions + 123 infantry divisions. I believe I can do it before Sept 1939!
Seigneur_Vauban: ..I honestly didn't expect Hungary to share techs..but the blueprints will just make it easier
nutting wrong with getting lucky once in a while! !
Seigneur_Vauban: ..BTW: To all you "upgrade-conscious" folks out there. I am currently trying to get 600+ IC worth of upgrades done. 24 tank divisions + 123 infantry divisions. I believe I can do it before Sept 1939!
just remember the "trick" i have up in post 27! ! that is, put your newest divisions in the upgrade queue first. save the "double" upgrades til last! ! [read that, at least the 1918 infantry] this way, you slam thru the early upgrades real quick, and with those divisions "in reserve" their poorer quality won't hurt you! !
oh, do you have '39 infantry researched? ? if not, how close? ? [your statement above leads me to believe that you have finished this...]
nutting wrong with getting lucky once in a while! !
Seigneur_Vauban: ..BTW: To all you "upgrade-conscious" folks out there. I am currently trying to get 600+ IC worth of upgrades done. 24 tank divisions + 123 infantry divisions. I believe I can do it before Sept 1939!
just remember the "trick" i have up in post 27! ! that is, put your newest divisions in the upgrade queue first. save the "double" upgrades til last! ! [read that, at least the 1918 infantry] this way, you slam thru the early upgrades real quick, and with those divisions "in reserve" their poorer quality won't hurt you! !
oh, do you have '39 infantry researched? ? if not, how close? ? [your statement above leads me to believe that you have finished this...]
GhostWriter said:Just remember the "trick" i have up in post 27! ! that is, put your newest divisions in the upgrade queue first. save the "double" upgrades til last! ! [read that, at least the 1918 infantry] this way, you slam thru the early upgrades real quick, and with those divisions "in reserve" their poorer quality won't hurt you! !
oh, do you have '39 infantry researched? ? if not, how close? ? [your statement above leads me to believe that you have finished this...]
Oh yes, I do have 1939. And I was being more fecitious in that statement than I think you picked up. I will definitely be done in time. In the 6 months that have passed between that last AAR and Munich, I have already dropped the upgrade need down to 400. My infantry build finished in late May, armor in early June, radar in early june. I am applying about 95 IC to upgrades continuously. Only IC used for building at this point is being applied to my carriers, CAGs, and destroyers; ~40 IC. The fleet will be prepared a few months before the invasion of Poland. Right on time!
And once I finish upgrading these units, I will throw all that IC into a parallel fighter build to crank out several full air wings of fighters to blast the Poles out of the sky and then fly back to Kassel to assist the Interceptors in slaughtering the Brits and French.