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Sex_Marxist

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Hi there, I'm trying to play as the Papacy in Magni Mudi Gold 1.79, I thought it'd be interesting. So far, though, it has been anything but. I've restarted my game four times with the same results. What are the results? Half of Europe declaring war on me without any reason in the first 4 months... I know Magni Mundi is supposed to add some plausibility to the game, but I'm not sure when most of Christiandom declares war on the Pope is very plausible. Maybe it's a bug, or just bad mechanics, I dunno, so far, it's happened without fail, and thats with LOW AI aggressiveness
 

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Yeah, I had that problem too. Best thing to do when Sciliy declares war on you is to let them win (if you can't win) and just keep offering them white peaces. Of course, make sure no one sieges your province in France.

Also, give the aggressors (the nations that you think will declare war on you) military access so they think twice.
 

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Not really Magna Mundi's fault...we can't control whether the AI declares war on you or not, so there's no way to make the Papacy 'special' short of creating permanent terra incognita around Rome. There are very few events that give a CB on the Papal States - you get invaded because you seem weak to your neighbors.

The best way to prevent it is to build a large army - or ally with countries that have large armies already.
 

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...Although I have created a Guelph and Ghibelline starting alliance for Italy after one player suggested it (not currently in MMG). I'm still testing it to see how much difference it makes. So far, so good - Italy seems to remain static much longer than in regular EU3. However, I'm not sure how much this will remain true when a player is in Italy...

If you'd like to test it out, you can download it and play with it (you need to put it in your MagnaMundi Gold/history/diplomacy directory). I'd appreciate feedback on it if you do so.
 

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Vanilla AI loves declaring war on the Papal State, and MM makes this worse by having a million events that modify Papal State standing - going below 0 relations with the AI increases the chance they will DOW on you a lot, in my experience.

There's no real solution other than to get some allies, get a big army and increase relations with countries that can kick your ass.