In Nomine is awesome

[Sovereign]

I was really shocked by this at first. I was the Papal States (finally, they can form Italy!) and my vassal Tripoli had occupied Malta in a war against Milan and Naples. I gave them it in the peace deal, since they'd helped so much and I didn't want to continuously put down revolts there. Turns out, as soon as I look at the revolt risk warning, I've got Malta!

I tried selling it to them but they didn't want it. So I'm going to have to deal with the revolts, I guess.

Can't you sell it to them for zero?

 

[Darkrenown]

Just to show an Empire's vassals:

 

[Saulot]

You changed to a kingdom then?

No I was still an empire. I had two vassals when I noticed this: Bulgaria and Naxos (which was at that point an Orthodox state though I don't know how it changed). When I get off from work today, I'll try to load up another game to try to investigate and see if I am doing something odd.

Oh... I know at one point during that game I was the lesser partner in a personal union with Georgia. Maybe that might have had some effect? Or does relative power of one's vassals have some effect?

 

[Darkrenown]

Power has nothing to do with it. Possibly it was because of the lesser partnership with Georgia, they're probably a Kingdom.

 

[Jaspume]

Can't you sell it to them for zero?

I tried, but it was set at 'very unlikely', and they kept declining.

I would sell it to Sicily, but I had to release the whole island as a vassal due to constant revolts and I want to dilpo-annex them when I'm Italy, so giving them a third province is out of the question.

 

[Darkrenown]

If it's not a core or adjacent to one of their provinces they're not interested

 

[jordarkelf]

Jaspume: use the TAG Cheat.

1) Pause the game.
2) Sell them the province for a reasonable amount (0 or up)
3) Type 'TAG TRI' in the console to become Tripoli
4) Accept the offer
5) Type 'TAG PAP' to become the Papacy again
6) Unpause the game

Sometimes, this is the only way to get the AI to behave.

 

[Saulot]

Power has nothing to do with it. Possibly it was because of the lesser partnership with Georgia, they're probably a Kingdom.

Yeah, Georgia was a kingdom so that was probably the reason.

 

[unmerged(37697)]

What are the prerequisites to declare yourself an empire?

 

[Darkrenown]

imperial_administration = {
		potential = {
			OR = {
				technology_group = latin
				technology_group = eastern
				technology_group = muslim
			}
			OR = {
				government = feudal_monarchy
				government = despotic_monarchy
			}
		}
		allow =  {
			stability = 1
			num_of_cities = 30
			war = no 
			is_subject = false
		}

 

[unmerged(37697)]

Right, so let me get this straight...

You need to be in the latin, eastern or muslim tech group, a feudal or despotic monarchy, be at 1 or more stability, not be at war, be an independent state (not a client/vassal) and own at least 30 provinces - is that right?

 

[Darkrenown]

Yes.

 

[unmerged(37697)]

Sounds about right, though I am surprised there isn't some sort of centralisation requirement.

 

[Mrdie]

though I am surprised there isn't some sort of centralisation requirement.

Mongol Empire.

 

[Van Diemen]

I did not know IN had an Empire system. However even though it is only a name, it does increase the game's flavour. At least you have something to aim at.

 

[unmerged(68505)]

I did not know IN had an Empire system. However even though it is only a name, it does increase the game's flavour. At least you have something to aim at.

Empire apparently tastes of hops