In HOI4, what defenses do you build against invasions across straits?

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Yeah, like if you want to defend a strait, do you build a coastal fort or a regular fort? Which of them will work against an attack across a strait? Since attacks across forts count as amphibious invasions, I am guessing coastal forts, but is this how it works in HoI 4?
 
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There is nothing Denmark can do to stop Germany.
 
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There is nothing Denmark can do to stop Germany.

I am well aware of that, but I would still like to know what would work best. Coastal forts or regular forts... In any case, there are more straits to defend, not just as Denmark :)
 

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If you are talking statistically then I'm not sure anyone here knows with any amount of factual certainty.
 
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I don't think either are going to work best in this situation. If you are talking statistically then I'm not sure anyone here knows with any amount of factual certainty.
I am talking purely statistically. I just used Denmark as an example.
 

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I am talking purely statistically. I just used Denmark as an example.
Yeah I just don't know if any of that information has been published by Paradox. I don't recall any posts on the subject but I will keep looking.
 
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I would probably put my money on land forts but that's just me. Unfortunately there's no way to tell right now unless a dev pops in to clarify it because it's never come up in the stream or in any dev diaries unfortunately. One way or another we'll know on June 6th though :D

Or in my case probably June 7th, judging by the fact that Stellaris wasn't live until around 2 or 3am my local time ;-;
 
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German forceful resistance on the islands and peninsulas of Holland showed that sometimes even crossing narrow swaths of water can be very difficult against stubborn defenders.
 

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German forceful resistance on the islands and peninsulas of Holland showed that sometimes even crossing narrow swaths of water can be very difficult against stubborn defenders.
Exactly, which is why I am trying to figure out what the best strategy for defending a strait would be...
 

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Just scrape the barrel and put a million unarmed troops to defend the straits, trust me, nothing can go wrong.
 
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I could not find any additional information regarding the two. Maybe we will just have to wait until the game's release?

On a side note: We're coastal gun hits/misses/sunken ships etc. statistics ever recorded by any country?
 

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Just scrape the barrel and put a million unarmed troops to defend the straits, trust me, nothing can go wrong.

Aren't you the one who proposed a focus tree for the Netherlands, including fortification ?

He wants to fortify Denmark the best way possible, even if the odds are extremely slim they can resist Germany.

At least they can try, even solely for the honour or as a "last-ditch" stand as you would probably say *-).
 

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Yeah, like if you want to defend a strait, do you build a coastal fort or a regular fort? Which of them will work against an attack across a strait? Since attacks across forts count as amphibious invasions, I am guessing coastal forts, but is this how it works in HoI 4?

Coastal forts counted against strait crossing in Hoi3, so I assume it will be the same in Hoi4 as well.
 
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I could not find any additional information regarding the two. Maybe we will just have to wait until the game's release?

On a side note: We're coastal gun hits/misses/sunken ships etc. statistics ever recorded by any country?
I think Norweigans sank a German ship that was there to arrest Norweigan Royal Family.
 

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Aren't you the one who proposed a focus tree for the Netherlands, including fortification ?

He wants to fortify Denmark the best way possible, even if the odds are extremely slim they can resist Germany.

At least they can try, even solely for the honour or as a "last-ditch" stand as you would probably say *-).
Yep! I was the one that made the Netherlands focus tree.

The best way to fortify Denmark would be to fortify the Danish islands, and focus all the industry in that region. Jutland will not be defendable, and the straits will function as great defensive regions. You should get the 5% recruitable populaion policy as fast when war is declared, as you will need tons of manpower. You should also make very strong units, with the best weapons possible, and as many bonuses to your army too. Hope that Germany has gotten into a fight with the Allies in the meantime, and just hold the line until Germany has bled to death trying to defeat you, with you having minimal losses.

I am even so nice to make some pretty good unit templates for you!

Germany plz no: Infantry division

Let's start with the support units: Military hospitals, Recon units and radio units. For the frontline units: 9 Infantry, 2 artillery.

Do not try to build an airforce, it will get destroyed. Focus all your military factories on building up a wartime supply of weapons, ammunition and artillery. You will not need any cavalry or tanks, but keep the templates around for when you start your counterpush and can encircle some German divisions in Jutland.

TL; DR: Fortify the straits, build factories in the Danish isles, get tons of manpower, abandon Jutland, laugh as the Germans get huge losses trying to cross the strait, bleed 'em to death, make a counterpush and realise that Berlin is already Russian, cry as you have gained nothing.

As for what fort: Naval forts, for if the Germans try to land in Copenhagen with boats.

EDIT: I think I just found my first game.
 
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